WikiWirral Wirral's Biggest Online Forum
Forum Statistics
Posts1,027,439
Topics75,537
Members13,472
Forums65
Posts in last 24hrs12
Most Online14,906
Nov 23rd, 2019
Who's Online Now
48 registered members (Berliner, 6 invisible), 1,236 guests, and267 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


Popular Topics(Views 7days)
New General Forums
New Brighton racing memories
by johncon. 12th Aug 2020 9:02am
TV licence
by casper. 11th Aug 2020 5:27pm
Hi everyone.
by Harp1st. 6th Aug 2020 12:16pm
The cat got the cream
by snowhite. 23rd Jul 2020 2:25pm
New Wirral History
Woodside Ferry on Upton Rd
by mikeeb. 11th Aug 2020 12:50pm
A Stanworth Shop, Birkenhead North
by diggingdeeper. 6th Aug 2020 11:11am
Toll booths Birkenhead Tunnel
by mikeeb. 4th Aug 2020 2:34pm
Ron Gittins Stories ?
by DaDoRon. 2nd Jul 2020 9:59pm
Outdoor swimming pools
by mikeeb. 30th Jun 2020 4:26pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
Boaty McBoatface takes shape
The gathering storm: Mersey waterfront today
Topic Replies
Men's mountain bike
by Peter0787. 12th Aug 2020 1:58pm
Any Auto Electricians here?
by Pete_M. 12th Aug 2020 10:10am
Woodside Ferry on Upton Rd
by mikeeb. 12th Aug 2020 9:24am
Toll booths Birkenhead Tunnel
by bert1. 12th Aug 2020 5:31am
What song are you listening to?
by GaryFromWirral. 11th Aug 2020 9:36pm
Ron Gittins Stories ?
by DaDoRon. 10th Aug 2020 8:13pm
Xbox One Console With RDR 2 And 22" LG TV
by rhoobarb2002. 10th Aug 2020 4:15pm
Hi everyone.
by Harp1st. 10th Aug 2020 2:43pm
676 Queens Royal Hotel Marine Promenade Wallasey
by mikeeb. 10th Aug 2020 12:22pm
August
M T W T F S S
1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Restaurant/pub with outdoor seating - Bromborough
by diggingdeeper. 8th Aug 2020 11:17am
Previous Topic
Next Topic
Print Topic
Rate Topic
Wirral Aviators 1910 to 1914 #317801
10th May 2009 2:20pm
10th May 2009 2:20pm
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 308
Prenton
D
Doctor_Frick Offline OP
Old Hand
Doctor_Frick  Offline OP
Old Hand
D
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 308
Prenton
Considering that the Wright brothers first flew at the end of 1903 and there was quite a lot of aeronautical activity around Europe and in the south of England, the North West did not really wake up to the marvel of the aeroplane until quite late. The Birkenhead News in September 1909 reported that a Mr Edward Mines of “Brightholme” Hydro Avenue West Kirby had been building his own aircraft in the Marine Pagoda enclosure adjacent to the promenade. The machine was based on the Wright Brothers machine with his own refinements to reduce weight to 400lbs., a necessary requirement as he was only using an 8hp JAP engine. The newspaper also reported that another unnamed gentleman of West Kirby was working on the design of an aircraft. Nothing further was heard about these gentleman efforts.

Flight magazine for the 25th September 1909 had commented, “It is reported from Liverpool that three practicable monoplanes have been constructed in the neighbourhood, and that on one of them, a flight of about 35 miles has been made. It is said that the trials of these machines have been carried out in secret on a lonely part of the Lancashire coast, north of Liverpool, and along the Deeside in the neighbourhood of West Kirby”. Again no further information is known about this.

There had also been reports that T. Elder Hearn a Music hall performer and Freddie A. Fyfe had been using a grassy recreation ground at Eastham Ferry to fly from. Hearn had bought a Bleriot aircraft in France, and after a basic flying course managed to get the plane to Liverpool without serious mishap. In 1914, Hearn is known to have flown over New Brighton Tower, and from Liverpool Polo Clubs ground. Freddie Fyfe was a local photographer who later became a photographer in the RFC and re-enlisted during the Second Would War, ending up as a Squadron Leader.

The Wirral would eventually witness quite a lot of aerial activity from 1910 till 1914 when the start of World War I put an end to civil flying till after the war.

1st August 1910 – Robert Loraine flies over New Brighton
On Bank Holiday Monday 1st August, a French built Farman biplane, flown by 34-year-old Robert Loraine, electrified the holiday crowds, when it suddenly appeared at about 4.15pm, flying towards New Brighton Tower. Loraine, who had been born in Wallasey on 14th January 1876, was a famous actor manager of the time. He had obtained his French flying certificate (No 126), at the Henry Farman flying school at Pau, France. He returned to England, bring with him his £7,000 Farman aircraft and the schools chief mechanic, Jules Vedrines. Loraine saw himself as a pioneer of aviation, but in order not to appear to be using his flying exploits, to further his theatrical career, used the name of Robert Jones whilst flying. He was taking part in the Blackpool Aviation Carnival, having previously amazed the crowds at the July Bournemouth International Flying Week, by flying across to the Isle of Wight in a storm.

At the Blackpool carnival, Loraine was competing for the £100 prize, for the aviator that remained in the air for the longest time. The aircraft he was flying, was designed and built by Henry (Henri) Farman, an Englishman living in France. It was a biplane, with the pilot seated out in the open, in the middle of the lower wing. The engine, a 50hp Gnome, and propeller were mounted in pusher configuration, behind the pilot. The fuselage was an open framework with only the wings and flying surfaces covered in fabric.

Loraine had taken off from Blackpool an hour earlier. As he approached New Brighton Tower, it looked as though he was going to circle it, but before he reached it, he turned and headed across the river to fly around the Pier Head. The first that Blackpool knew of his whereabouts was when a “wag” from the New Brighton Tower rang Blackpool and said, “There’s an aeroplane hanging about over the river here. Do you happen to have lost one from Blackpool” As Loraine crossed the River Mersey; the air was filled with a cacophony of sirens and hooters from vessels on the river. He then flew back across the River Mersey to Birkenhead and then up to New Brighton where as a schoolboy he had dreamed of flying.

The details of his progress were being broadcast to the crowds at Blackpool, by megaphone. “Jones has flown over the Mersey and is now over Egremont”. “Jones is rounding the tower at New Brighton”. “Jones is returning to Blackpool”. Having flown over New Brighton, he turned towards Blackpool. The flight back was not without incident. Loraine began to lose height and looking around discovered a large black balloon on the tail plane. This was causing the aircraft to loose lift. Loraine, landed at five past five on a sand bank at Fairhaven in the Ribble estuary, opposite the King Edward School. It was not long before a large crowd gathered and dragged the aircraft to the beach, safe from the incoming tide. Loraine was able to call his team from Blackpool to affect repairs. His French mechanic, Jules Vedrines declared that the bubble was caused by oil from the engine being blown on to the tail plane and saturating the fabric that covered it. Following a quick repair Loraine took off for Blackpool at 6.45pm, only to be greeted by the news on landing, that as he had left the confines of the aerodrome, he did not qualify for first prize, even though he had been in the air for two hours. First prize had been awarded to a French aviator who had flown for one and a half hours, but within the confines of the aerodrome. The judges said that Loraine would be awarded the second prize of £50, if he flew for another 42 minutes. The petrol tank was duly filled up, and he flew for another 42 minutes.

Attached Files

Over 5000 years of Wirral History:
Google Ads
Re: Wirral Aviators 1910 to 1914 [Re: Doctor_Frick] #318866
14th May 2009 2:39pm
14th May 2009 2:39pm

P
PaulWirral
Unregistered
PaulWirral
Unregistered
P


A very good read.


Moderated by  Mod 

Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Any Auto Electricians here?
by Pete_M. 12th Aug 2020 10:08am
Woodside Ferry on Upton Rd
by mikeeb. 11th Aug 2020 12:50pm
Restaurant/pub with outdoor seating - Bromborough
by CarterUSM. 7th Aug 2020 9:00pm
Restaurant/pub with outdoor seating - Bromborough
by CarterUSM. 7th Aug 2020 8:59pm
Hi everyone.
by Harp1st. 6th Aug 2020 12:16pm
For Sale & Free
Men's mountain bike
by Peter0787. 12th Aug 2020 1:58pm
Xbox One Console With RDR 2 And 22" LG TV
by rhoobarb2002. 6th Aug 2020 4:13pm
Roland U-20 Vintage 80s/90s RS-PCM Keyboard/Synth
by rhoobarb2002. 6th Aug 2020 3:41pm
Three light unit
by gerry1. 3rd Aug 2020 10:36am
Carlton Players Birkenhead Theatre Programmes
by NickWirral. 19th Jul 2020 8:54pm
Member Spotlight
johncon
johncon
bromborough
Posts: 641
Joined: October 2010
Show All Member Profiles 
Newest Members
LACEWWING11, Bobblenose, Johan_Enrik, Oscar27, Barry02020
13472 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Restaurant/pub with outdoor seating - Bromborough
by CarterUSM. 7th Aug 2020 9:00pm
Restaurant/pub with outdoor seating - Bromborough
by CarterUSM. 7th Aug 2020 8:59pm
What Wood?
by rocks. 1st Aug 2020 7:12pm
Covid testing with certification on Wirral
by CarterUSM. 23rd Jul 2020 10:46am
Neowise comet
by mikeeb. 20th Jul 2020 9:04pm
News : New Topics
New Merseyrail trains covered in graffiti
by mikeeb. 28th Jul 2020 6:38pm
Found bicycle seat cover
by BultacoAstro. 25th Jul 2020 10:43am
Regeneration of New Ferry
by Excoriator. 24th Jul 2020 3:53pm
Painted frontages of new Ferry Shops.
by Excoriator. 23rd Jul 2020 11:29pm
Liver building
by cools. 26th Jun 2020 11:14pm
New Enthusiast Forums
Any Auto Electricians here?
by Pete_M. 12th Aug 2020 10:08am
Advice Needed Hellcat Carrera rear Wheel
by BultacoAstro. 28th Jul 2020 11:04am
River Mersey , then and now
by cools. 23rd Jul 2020 7:19pm
What is sitting on roof
by BultacoAstro. 9th Jul 2020 11:03am
Cruel ear cropping breeders moved to Bromborough
by venice. 21st Mar 2019 4:10pm
Popular Topics(Views 24hrs)
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Wed 5:48am
Sunset Wed 8:45pm
Local Time Wed 6:05pm
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1