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#316523 - 6th May 2009 8:02pm Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease
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#316524 - 6th May 2009 8:07pm Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: derekdwc]
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that so sad mate use to love it in there when everything worked!
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#316531 - 6th May 2009 8:22pm Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: TRANCENTRAL]
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#316533 - 6th May 2009 8:26pm Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: _Ste_]
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or a ghost hunt mate grin
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#316541 - 6th May 2009 8:43pm Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: TRANCENTRAL]
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Can you believe the incompetence of Wirral Council, that they would sell this building if possible!! Such a short sighted thing to do, this old treasure will be lost to the people of the Wirral. Depending on who buys it/leases it could mean local people never get to see inside this beautiful building. Crazy

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#316543 - 6th May 2009 8:47pm Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: Stegga]
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Worse than that, it is only Grade II, the inside of the building can be changed substantially.
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#316553 - 6th May 2009 9:19pm Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: diggingdeeper]
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i wonder how long it will take for someone to damage this little beauty

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#316572 - 6th May 2009 10:40pm Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: Shadow_Omega]
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For god sake WIRRAL BITCH COUNCIL at it again.. They do not know anything they get thousands upon thousands of pounds from us fu**ing tax payers and STILL there after more F***ing money what on earth is in your minds councilers?? A free life of nothing.. Your killing wirral you all should be shot.. Im disgusted that they would sell this or lease it.. What on earth is it going to do untill its brought by some idiots... I bet peel holdings will buy it and turn it into a fu**ing resturant or something.. Im disgusted at this so called council and to be quite frank id do a hell of a better job cause id use the money tax payers pay for proper things not stupid statues in birkenhead park that cost 100,000.. Anyway before i storm wallasey town hall im going to get a drink and shut up..


Cant believe it..
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#316581 - 6th May 2009 10:55pm Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: diggingdeeper]
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From the English Heritage website:

"Listing is not meant to fossilise a building. Its long-term interests are often best served by putting it to good use. If this cannot be the one it was designed for, a new use may have to be found. Listing ensures that the architectural and historic interest of the building is carefully considered before any alterations, either outside or inside, are agreed."

So listed building consent is needed before any alterations, internal or external, to a listed building are carried out. The catch is that Wirral Borough Council grant the listed building consent!!

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#316647 - 6th May 2009 11:41pm Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: uptoncx]
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Actually its English Heritage whom grant the listing, Ive got all the papers and History of Gibson House, which I am in the process of setting up an appeal to get it listed.
Perhaps wirral council are selling the old town hall to pay for more trips to shanghi? havent you noticed the local muppet papers have gone quiet on that lavish expenditure last year?
guess what too, there going to sell central library too! u watch.

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#316656 - 6th May 2009 11:45pm Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: purfek]
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Its the council that permit alterations to listed buildings though isn't it?
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#316695 - 7th May 2009 12:11am Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: diggingdeeper]
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NO WAY!

This has to be stopped.
Surely this building should be listed as an asset on WBC's books?
Does this mean that we council tax payers have a say in the matter?

Bring on the local elections next month.

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#316697 - 7th May 2009 12:13am Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: purfek]
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Actually its English Heritage whom grant the listing, Ive got all the papers and History of Gibson House, which I am in the process of setting up an appeal to get it listed.
Perhaps wirral council are selling the old town hall to pay for more trips to shanghi? havent you noticed the local muppet papers have gone quiet on that lavish expenditure last year?
guess what too, there going to sell central library too! u watch.


Good luck on Gibson house man happy
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#316698 - 7th May 2009 12:13am Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: diggingdeeper]
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its complex, the fabric of the building is protected basic things like the colour of paint, types of drain pipes roof coverings all have to go via wirrals conservation officer, Graham Arnolde. The internal structure is a different matter dependant upon its listing apparently there are two forms of Grade 2 listing and only one of Grade 1 listing.

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#317318 - 8th May 2009 2:49pm Re: Former Birkenhead Town Hall for sale or lease [Re: ]
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What's the status of the building now; is the Wirral Museum still there? Someone please update me.
Your main job, all of you, is to vote out this load of incompetents. PLEASE!!!
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