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Joe,you are basically there,but as previously stated, if your suspension is too soft you will pitch,squat and roll as you either accelerate,brake or steer... any of these in excess will cause you to lose grip...not making for "good" handling mate:)
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True, body roll makes for crap handling
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Yeah mate...I know cos I've driven a Cortina!!! lol
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That is all based on weight distribution, centre of Gravity and Moments (turning forces) that affect the cars handling and grip levels.
You have to collate all this information along the X, Y and Z axis of the car, which basically are the forces created through Velocity, Braking and Gravity...... Nicely pasted mate,however, your post just re-enforces my previous statement..lol I was trying to blind them with science....just so theyd all agree hahaha. Driving the Alfa today, I have to admit, that is a great handling car. No body roll, I actualy fet confident going round one corner, I wouldnt in the micra.
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Yep,they are like Pugs in that respect,they didn't really make a poor handling Alfa...
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Wern't alot of alfas flat fours? Lower centre of gravity and all that?
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The earlier ones used the Boxers yea. The boxer was used int he 145 and 146 up to 1997, when they were replaced by the Twin Spark.
They had a better centre of Gravity, but were underpowered in comparison to the Twin Spark.
Still, a 1.6 Escort has 90bhp, a 1.6 146 with the Flat four had 108bhp..whereas the 1.6 Twin Spark variant has 120bhp
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..and Hondas B16 had 170bhp  Unfortunatly its a heavy engine and box though, and it sits almost in front of the front suspension making the car quite nose heavy  Ive had to specify front springs that where a lot heavier than where originally supplied with my coilovers to accomodate the weight and where its located.
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Can't say i noticed this to much in my B18c integra, used to suffer from Lift-off oversteer though, luckily the LSD used to pull the car through the corner without to much trouble.
Used to have some similar handling attribues to RWD
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The Integra carries more weight at the back of the car which balances it better 
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