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I very much Doubt if Cali will be attending this one.
Seeing that he is busy organising his own things.

So anyone want to take charge of this one?

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sending a pm to you Mr Andrew wink

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There is no reason why i wouldn't attend this.

My topic, my idea so i'll be there, however due to my "own things" it may change in the future. as it stands right now i'll be there, that is unless i'm no longer welcome ????


You are not allowed to advertise on the boards so if you want to know what my own things are drop me a pm or email.


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Aye aye Cali wot you upto??

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I for one will not welcome you cali I see you as a 2 faced and shallow.

In the space of a few days you have gone from hero to zero.

Originally Posted by Cali_16v
Matty the problem we have is the banners, stickers and clothing is all branded crusiewirral.

As mark offered to hand the name and server over at cost if he was willing to PM the running costs to me i'd gladly do some workings out and see what we could come up with.


The best you could do was to re launch a Old Name
and host it on free software and a free server and over
charge for sickers. I'm so glad you didnt use your idea's
on cruisewirral i'm so glad.

You didn't like the fact that i would not give you control of
cruisewirral.com and the server, you also were invited to be
a moderator in the autowirral forums, and then you start up
your own forums with similar topics from this site.

Sorry Cali in my eyes that's underhand and typical you i guess.
I wish you luck with your new forum but not riding on our
success.

You can continue your thoughts in your own topic.
on birkenhead cruise.com

A lot of people seen you as a friend cali, but that isnt so
true now. I doubt i will be intrested in anything you have
to say anymore.

But good luck anyway. I mean that.

Mark.
Thats the last i will be saying on the subject.

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Mark, i wanted this to be civil, and yes ok it might be free software for now.

Everyone has to start somewhere.

Ok i'm using an old name bit i didn't want an us and them argument if you ask anyone who know i have said all along i never wanted to fall out with anyone.

everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

This has nothing to do with wanting control of CW. I have my reasons for doing this and their just that, MY reasons. No disrespect to CW as i enjoy using the site and have made some good friends on here.

And over charging for stickers ????????

I'm giving them away for free. the detailed ones i'm charging for yes, as my supplyer charges more for them.


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Wow thats a bit low that Cali, how can you rant on one minute about wanting to bring Cruisewirral back to the forefront of local cruising, and then start a competing site on the sly.

I am seeing that right now as a massive stab in the back to Mark and all other Cruisewirral members, regardless of whether they wanted to see a mainstream return of the CW name or not (I personally chose the Autowirral name).

I am rather surprised in you to be honest, I always thought of you a decent and upfront guy, never a back stabber, and never sly.

The thing that you have failed to understand Daz, is that its the members who make a community, not the name, Autowirral or Cruisewirral, it doesnt matter, you will still get the same level of convo and interest because its the members that make the posts at the end of the day.

I can't believe you wouldn't take up Mark on his offer and become a mod and get organising events that you are clearly going to organise elsewhere anyway so you may as well have done it through Cruisewirral.

I myself have been involved in the running of forums etc (including a stint as a mod on here for a year or so) in the past, and I hope that in time you will be able to appreciate in time, the amount of time and effort put in by the moderating team on Wikiwirral.

If you have started a site of you're own, I too wish you the best of luck, because believe me, its a full time job and ive seen experienced web coders and developers fall at the hands of spambots in recent years due to the use of free software.

Anyway mate, see you around, hope you come to you're senses pretty soon and realise, as Andy says, Cruisewirral is a family, its here forever, never goes away and never ditches you like most other things in life.

No matter what happens in my life, I know full well that Cruisewirral/Wikiwirral is only a click away and this is the reason, I won't be joining you on you're little rebellion.

Just to say to the Mark, Joe, Stuy and the rest of team and members here on Wiki, thanks for keeping the forums going, even if I am a right little shit sometimes!!

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relating to the above items,
i dont understand why another site needs to cause a kick off as we all have the same interests, and cali is still an active member on the cw forums. He has always come up with some great ideas and to say he is not welcome to an unofficail cw meet that was thought up by himself i think is rather sly. Not like he has said lets all meet in the pub to suport birkenheadcruise.He there to be active member in cw. Are we no longer aloud to be a member of more than one forum. I do not see this as a rival. I see this site as another cruisin enthusiasts site. And i think the more the better.
There is no money involved so why act so much like this is a buisness.
Why cant two local sites be friends?


THE REBIRTH HAS BEGUN.hope you can keep up

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Its not about being friends Richie, its the way he has done it. As far as I am concerned, I am still friends with everyone on any local forums no matter what happens. What I dont like is backstabbing and slyness.

Everyone is free to do what they want, but to make out he wanted to help Cruisewirral, to cause a stir about this and then piss off and start up a rival site, is a bit off, you have to understand that.

The things that would be catered by another cruising site, could esily have been catered for by Cruisewirral, and Mark offered him, publically may I add, the option to become a moderator and get things going again on the Cruisewirral front.

He rejected this , and instead of doing it for the members of Cruisewirral, he has jumped onto another bandwagon altogether and therefore, turned his back on Cruisewirral.

Even after years of being quiet, you are still drawn here, as are many other "old skool" members, that is proof enough that Cruisewirral is not dead and is still a draw to the cruising community.

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as Andy says, Cruisewirral is a family, its here forever, never goes away and never ditches you like most other things in life.

No matter what happens in my life, I know full well that Cruisewirral/Wikiwirral is only a click awayJust to say to the Mark, Joe, Stuy and the rest of team and members here on Wiki, thanks for keeping the forums going, even if I am a right little shit sometimes!!


well said blood !!!!


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Everyone is free to do what they want, but to make out he wanted to help Cruisewirral, to cause a stir about this and then piss off and start up a rival site, is a bit off, you have to understand that.


Rival, nobody said rival.

Like i said didn't want an us and them but seems the friendly people of CW want it that way. it was never my intention to cause an argument or fall out with anybody. as richie said, we all enjoy the same thing.

And i don't ever recall being asked to be a moderator on here. i know joe asked me face to face and said he would have a word with mark.

I don't want to fall out with anyone wanted to make new friends and this seemed a good way to do it. sorry you all feel the way you but like i have also said i have my own personal reasons for doing this.

It's up to people if they choose to sign up. also can i ask to have my posting rights back as i find posting every half an hour a bit unfair. also i understand the reason for the loss of the PM function.

i will never have this as an us and them thing but seems that is what is wanted. i will still use this site, however i will find it difficult with the above restrictions


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mmmm its a tricky one but as they say why bring up another similar forum if there is already one here??.
The activities that are offered on another forum will be similar to this one so I can't see why there
is a need for another forum??

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as richie said, we all enjoy the same thing.


Yeah we enjoy the same things but why not enjoy the same things together? in one forum?

I don't mind another forum but with every one being in one forum would save time and double posting.

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Seems like a waste of time mate, you have everything you need here, so why do it ?


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