Hello - does anyone know anything about the Zieglers in Oxton? I've seen records of Alexander C Ziegler who I think lived on Talbot Road, Laura Ziegler who was married to William H Ziegler who lived on Bidston Road - William is buried in Flaybricks. I'm interested in finding out about where they came from, what they did and where they lived - does anyone know anything about them? I found an entry on ancestry but the name is spelt ZieglAr and I'm not sure if that's either correct or the same person.....?
William Henry Ziegler Record Type Marriage Marriage Date 8 Jun 1882 Marriage Place New York, Pennsylvania, USA Church Fifth Avenue Presbyterian Church Laura Hamilton Paton
According to the 1891 census, William was born Woodchurch and Laura, born Canada. Transcription, ZieglAr is wrong.
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Name William Henry Zeigler Gender Male Birth Date 20 Apr 1820 Birth Place Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Baptism Place Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Residence Date 1820 Residence Place Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Father, John Zeigler, Mother, Jane Smollet
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Thank you, Bert. I have William H. Ziegler as being born in Woodchurch in 1857, but on his grave stone it says 1856 (5th July), he's buried in Flaybrick. His death is written on his tomb as 1896. I know he married Laura Hamilton Paton who was from Ontario I believe, they were married in New York. Then I have an entry for John Hasting Ziegler who was born in July 1851 and died in Birkenhead 31st October 1927.
I also have a record of Alexander C Ziegler born in 1884 - was he William's son do you think?
Where do you access the censuses? Is it via Ancestry?
Name Miss Charlotta Eustaphieve Gender Female Residence Date Abt 1879 Residence Place Providence , R. I. Marriage Date 5 Apr 1879 Marriage Place Niagara street Spouse, J Hastings Zeigler
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That's interesting, I haven't heard of the Shaftesbury Boys Club - whereabouts was that, and when did you go? I wonder where the Zieglers came from and how they were all related - they seemed to live in various roads such as Cearns, Grosvenor, Shrewsbury, Bidston and Talbot. So, Aspinall died and J H Ziegler replaced him in 1891? So, in terms of the various family members of the Zieglers I have:
William Henry Ziegler - born in 1856/7 - died in 1896 - was married to Laura Paton Hamilton who apparently lived at no. 54 Bidston Road for a while.
John Hasting Ziegler - born in 1851 - married Charlotte Evastaphiev - WAS JOHN BROTHER TO WILLIAM?
Alexander C Ziegler - born 1883, Charlotte Ziegler - born 1886, John Hasting Ziegler - born 1889 and Edith Ziegler - born 1890 - so all children of John H Ziegler Snr and Charlotte Evastaphiev?
Did William and Laura have children does anyone know? Also, quite a coincidence that both William and John married North Americans.
Children born between 1700-1850, (Scotlands People)
Surname Forename Parents/Other details Gender Birth Date Parish Number Ref Parish ZEIGLER WILLIAM HENRY JOHN ZEIGLER/JANE SMOLLET FR64 (FR64) M 20/04/1820 685 / 2 330 / 102 St Cuthbert's Buy credits
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ZEIGLER SMOLLETT RANKI ALEXANDER ZEIGLER/ANN ZEIGLER FR111 (FR111) F 28/05/1821 685 / 2 330 / 196 St Cuthbert's Buy credits
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ZEIGLER ALEXANDER WILLIAM ZEIGLER/ANN HOUDEN FR3304 (FR3304) M 15/07/1796 685 / 2 120 / 228 St Cuthbert's Buy credits
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ZEIGLER ALEXANDER JOHN ZEIGLER/JEAN SMOLLET RANKIN FR3347 (FR3347) M 05/02/1798 685 / 2 120 / 312 St Cuthbert's Buy credits
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ZEIGLER GEORGE JOHN ZEIGLER/JEAN SMOLLETT RANKINE FR3713 (FR3713) M 30/06/1809 685 / 2 130 / 414 St Cuthbert's Buy credits
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ZEIGLER JAMES ALEXANDER ZEIGLER/ANN DOUGLAS FR8529 (FR8529) M 03/08/1766 685 / 1 320 / 107 Edinburgh Buy credits
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ZEIGLER JOHN JOHN ZEIGLER/JEAN SMOLLET RANKIN FR3516 (FR3516) M 15/06/1803 685 / 2 130 / 20 St Cuthbert's Buy credits
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ZEIGLER ANN WILLIAM ZEIGLER/ANN HOWDON FR3154 (FR3154) F 27/11/1792 685 / 2 110 / 516 St Cuthbert's Buy credits
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ZEIGLER JANE SMOLLET JOHN ZEIGLER/JANE SMOLLET RANKINE FR3874 (FR3874) F 09/10/1813 685 / 2 140 / 60 St Cuthbert's Buy credits
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ZEIGLER JANET JOHN ZEIGLER/JEAN SMOLETT RANKIN FR3794 (FR3794) F 02/11/1811 685 / 2 130 / 576 St Cuthbert's Buy credits
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ZEIGLER JANET WILLIAM ZEIGLER/ANN HOWDEN FR3250 (FR3250) F 29/09/1794 685 / 2 120 / 126 St Cuthbert's Buy credits
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ZEIGLER JANET CLEGHORN JOHN ZEIGLER/JEAN SMOLLET RANKINE FR4028 (FR4028) F 12/08/1817 685 / 2 140 / 337 St Cuthbert's Buy credits
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ZEIGLER MARJORY JOHN ZEIGLER/JEAN SMOLLET RANKEN FR3301 (FR3301) F 02/06/1796 685 / 2 120 / 223 St Cuthbert's
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Children of William Henry Ziegler and Laura Hamilton Paton.
All with surname Ziegler and mothers maiden name, Paton.
Guy Hamilton, 1883, New York, USA. Alice Mary, 1888, Birkenhead Ralph Paton, 1890, Birkenhead. Frances Isabel Hamilton, 1891, Birkenhead. Marjory Hastings, 1894, Birkenhead.
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I suspect he is the son of William Henry Ziegler, a Farmer in Landican.
Marriage, ZIEGLER William H, HASTINGS Mary 1846 Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At ZIEGLER Jane Smollett HASTINGS 1849 Woodchurch Wirral Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1851 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At ZIEGLER John Hastings HASTINGS 1851 Woodchurch Wirral Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1853 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At ZIEGLER Alexander Charles HASTINGS 1853 Woodchurch Wirral Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1856 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At ZIEGLER William Henry HASTINGS 1856 Woodchurch Wirral Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1858 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At ZIEGLER Mary HASTINGS 1858 Woodchurch Wirral Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1861 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At ZIEGLER George William HASTINGS 1861 Woodchurch Wirral
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The Shaftesbury Boys Club when it was the juniors entrance in Jackson st and the seniors entrance in Thomas st. It is now split up, one part being the House of Pain and another part used to be the Atmosphere club.Building is still standing
new club built Shaftesbury Youth Club 60 Mendip Road, Birkenhead Possibly they may have pics of past presidents. I do know they have a brass plaque with the names of past presidents on it 0151 608 7165?
