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Re: Coronavirus [Re: granny] #1079098
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Originally Posted by granny


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The Commons Home Affairs Select Committee and the Public Accounts Committee are both finding significant mishandling of the Covid response by the Government.

I suspect there will be more committees raising points soon.

Will it make any difference? I doubt it, the same people will keep on making blatant mistakes on a near daily basis.



That should make people happy then. A case of " Told you so " !



There is nothing good about incompetence causing deaths and even worse this is still continuing, it needs to be stopped.

It isn't about brownie points, it is about people's lives.


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: granny] #1079101
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Originally Posted by granny


[quote=diggingdeeper]The Commons Home Affairs Select Committee and the Public Accounts Committee are both finding significant mishandling of the Covid response by the Government.

I suspect there will be more committees raising points soon.

Will it make any difference? I doubt it, the same people will keep on making blatant mistakes on a near daily basis.



That should make people happy then. A case of " Told you so " ! [

Not happy granny, its not about that, they are guilty at the very least of gross incompetence and even admitted it to a small degree, probably hoping to fend off a full investigation, Johnson keeps on pushing away calls for a public enquiry, if we can't find out what went wrong then we can't fix it, they are still trying to defend their actions, as usual everyone else is wrong.

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Portugal finally off quarantine list for England, happy days!
I'll be flying out in a few days.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/portugal

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It's gone very quiet on the covid front, except for the localised outbreaks, very few death reports, the school results fiasco has stolen the headlines, soon the bungling and mistakes will be forgotten and Johnson will emerge from his funk hole.

Re: Coronavirus [Re: cools] #1079251
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Boris even managed to bungle his "camping" holiday. Rented a cottage then without permission erected a tent in the next field, climbing over the fence instead of using a gate. Farmer isn't too chuffed at not being asked.

The timing of his holiday and the tent's appearance isn't clear yet but it looks like it may have been put up as an afterthought in case it was needed for photographs.

CV-19 might look quiet but the r-number shows it is growing again and that's before the UV has dwindled significantly. It looks like its going to be a tough winter.

They are looking for more volunteers for the inoculation trials.


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: cools] #1079252
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I'm sure the midgies will have made their presence felt, unless the sea breeze has kept them at bay... wouldn't fancy camping that close to a cliff myself!

Re: Coronavirus [Re: cools] #1079255
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What a lot of nonesense. He hired a £1,500 per week cottage and set up a tent in the next field with a baby of 4 months ?

Believe that and believe anything.

As reported last night ,he left because his location had been spotted. No doubt the tent was erected by and used by the paparazzi.
Only the media have said the farmer was angry..... Let's hear from the disgruntled farmer.....not surprisingly, he's remained silent so far.


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: cools] #1079256
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..and even if he had doen, would it have really mattered. Not crop growing , and no animals. Just rough land.

It was probably his security team


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: cools] #1079257
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These are Kenny Cameron's, the farmer's, words

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"Mr Johnson is meant to be leading the country and yet he is not setting a great example."

"Usually if people want to go inside a fenced area, they ask for permission first, but I was not asked at all. It is only polite to ask."

"He could have put up his tent in the garden of the cottage and there would have been no problem – but he didn't do that."

"He could easily have damaged the fence by climbing over it as a short cut. There is a gate a little way up and they could have just used that."

"Having a bonfire is always a risk when you have dry weather. I know we had rain last night but it has been very dry."

"It was the first time I had seen a tent in the field. I last came up here a few days ago and it was not here then."

"It is nice that the Prime Minister came here with his family. This area is very remote. There is plenty of peace and quiet."


The field is used by Mr Cameron's sheep.


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Yeh, well I saw a different report saying that Mr Cameron uses the field for sheep in the winter, and Mr Cameron rents the field. .. Its not winter yet.

Have you never pitched a tent in a field ? I have.. many times . I once pitched a tent in someones back garden (it was dark at the time ) It wasn;t the end of the world.

For someone who goes on jaunts exploring old buildings that are owned by other people and not open to public, its a bit ripe .

This is none news. It's a bloody field !!


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: cools] #1079259
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Take only photo's, leave only footprints. Big difference from squatting and setting off fires. Apart from which if I think the owner or person responsible is approachable then I ask. On occasions the police have been present and not once have the police asked us to leave the property, even when we have specifically asked if they want us to leave.

I challenge anyone to say they have never trespassed, not many people have squatted.

Whilst the general rule is sheep go on the highlands in summer and lowlands in winter, I don't think being right on the coast classes as winter lowlands?

Whilst I have stayed outdoors overnight many times in tents and vehicles, I have never done it without permission from the owner or tenant, even when it was dangling on a crag. You are robbing them of pitch fees if you don't.

Someone has been quick off the mark and attached a picture of someone that looks like Boris next to a coffin tent at the cottage on google maps https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.5135567,-5.8613149,183m/data=!3m1!1e3


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: diggingdeeper] #1079260
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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Take only photo's, leave only footprints. Big difference from squatting and setting off fires. Apart from which if I think the owner or person responsible is approachable then I ask. On occasions the police have been present and not once have the police asked us to leave the property, even when we have specifically asked if they want us to leave.

I challenge anyone to say they have never trespassed, not many people have squatted.

Whilst the general rule is sheep go on the highlands in summer and lowlands in winter, I don't think being right on the coast classes as winter lowlands?

Whilst I have stayed outdoors overnight many times in tents and vehicles, I have never done it without permission from the owner or tenant, even when it was dangling on a crag. You are robbing them of pitch fees if you don't.

Someone has been quick off the mark and attached a picture of someone that looks like Boris next to a coffin tent at the cottage on google maps https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.5135567,-5.8613149,183m/data=!3m1!1e3


winter pasture for some of his 700 sheep which spend the summer on the hills.

You're a ' little 'goody two shoes ' then. I didn;t ask permission when we couldn;t find the farmer to ask if we could climb the ladder to the top of a barn for the night . Just got up early , scratched a lot and left. Of course , we didn't 'set off fires ' as you call it !

Looking at the map, I;d suggest Mr Cameron, the farmer , was not in the vicinity to ask and how does anyone know who owns the property and surrounding land. It could be Boris himself or maybe Carrie' s family, as she clearly has Scottish roots. ?

Now be a good lad, take Casper with you and catch up with the rest of the the world, such as 1 million people being starved of food ,medical supplies and denied water, due to Turkey cutting off supplies.. Ooops, maybe noboby has heard about that ; did I spill the beans on the media propoganda machine and how it only works sometimes ?
There's a lot going on out there in the big wide world. How have we all become so obsessive about trivial stuff that the media continue to bait us with ?

Have a nice day.


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Originally Posted by granny
[quote=diggingdeeper]Take only photo's, leave only footprints. Big difference from squatting and setting off fires. Apart from which if I think the owner or person responsible is approachable then I ask. On occasions the police have been present and not once have the police asked us to leave the property, even when we have specifically asked if they want us to leave.

I challenge anyone to say they have never trespassed, not many people have squatted.

Whilst the general rule is sheep go on the highlands in summer and lowlands in winter, I don't think being right on the coast classes as winter lowlands?

Whilst I have stayed outdoors overnight many times in tents and vehicles, I have never done it without permission from the owner or tenant, even when it was dangling on a crag. You are robbing them of pitch fees if you don't.

Someone has been quick off the mark and attached a picture of someone that looks like Boris next to a coffin tent at the cottage on google maps https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.5135567,-5.8613149,183m/data=!3m1!1e3


winter pasture for some of his 700 sheep which spend the summer on the hills.

You're a ' little 'goody two shoes ' then. I didn;t ask permission when we couldn;t find the farmer to ask if we could climb the ladder to the top of a barn for the night . Just got up early , scratched a lot and left. Of course , we didn't 'set off fires ' as you call it !

Looking at the map, I;d suggest Mr Cameron, the farmer , was not in the vicinity to ask and how does anyone know who owns the property and surrounding land. It could be Boris himself or maybe Carrie' s family, as she clearly has Scottish roots. ?

Now be a good lad, take Casper with you and catch up with the rest of the the world, such as 1 million people being starved of food ,medical supplies and denied water, due to Turkey cutting off supplies.. Ooops, maybe noboby has heard about that ; did I spill the beans on the media propoganda machine and how it only works sometimes ?
There's a lot going on out there in the big wide world. How have we all become so obsessive about trivial stuff that the media continue to bait us with ?

Have a nice day. [/quote

Yes you are probably right granny, the tent was set up for media attention, most likely for a photo shoot of Boris and his "new" family complete with benny hat sorry beanie hat,sitting around the camp fire singing ging gang gooly a lute may have been more significant whilst sitting around the fire.

The point you made about the camping, really granny, the tent set up by the media, you really are scraping the barrel in defence of a man that has that has no moral compass and so much contempt of others that he has his security team (the ones you say allowed the media to erect said tent a security risk in itself) to erect a tent on someone else's property, but then that's Boris wreck a restaurant and throw some money on the floor, neither the contempt nor the arrogance ever leaves them,

Speaking of media propaganda is a bit pot and kettle don't you think? seeing as they have most of it in their pocket, even some them are being more critical of the circus that purports to be government.

I had little time for Thatcher and her policies but she led from the front, no hiding away from responsibility.

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Well granny doesn’t think theft and murder matter so we had to try squatting and arson instead. Seems they don’t matter either.

Forgot to add lies and infidelity.

In fact all the basic morals.

Someone’s got it bad!

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Glad to see you back Granny and firing on all four cylinders ha... Me I think this flaming Corona Virus is driving us all mentally insane and I so wish the world instead of blaming each other and trying to score points against apposing parties would all get together and fight the real enemy , C-19!!!
I’ve stopped watching the news so much now because it’s so depressing and not only us but the whole world is fighting for survival. The media don’t help at all blowing things up for sensationalism and obviously the farmer is not a lover of Boris it’s just so trivial , this is the first I’ve heard of this, OMG a tent erected, earth shattering news , NOT!!

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