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Re: Coronavirus [Re: cools] #1077649
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I've got to disagree with you on this Granny, sorry.. Hes made a huge mistake in doing this and undermined all the advice about , don't travel, if you have symptoms isolate 14 days etc. Sure with his contacts and wealth a solution could have been found if the worst had happened. People are having to do this with a lot less resources he had. I would have respected him more if he had at least apologised and said he panicked as you do when your children are at risk from anything. I don't agree with hounding him and his parents. Don't know why you'd want to put up with it all I'd just resign and bite the bullet.
All these high profile people are going to be stalked by press so they unfortunately have to follow the rules to the letter. Poor Boris I feel for him , he was so hyped up winning the election and getting Brexit done think he was sideswiped by this virus and the ferocity of it. Then he got the damn thing and I don't think he's fully recovered from it , he looks quite ill to me. It's going to be hard now to get people to act responsibility , think it's deffo herd immunity and hope you don't get it bad.
I just hope they ride it out and get on with the task of getting us out of this situation , heard that maybe the virus is starting to burn itself out , hope so!

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Being a SPAD, Cummings has broken some of the SPAD guidelines as well.

Many of the SAGE scientists are now coming out saying that the Government hasn't been following their advice and recommendations, something that has been suspected for a long time. When the Government starts statements off by heavily emphasising "Following expert scientific advice" you know they are falsely blaming others for what they know are their own dodgy decisions. They chose to gamble instead of taking advice, except this time they were gambling with peoples lives - not something that bothers the Tory hierarchy.

Boris looked the same as when he was Mayor of London when he realised he hadn't got a clue what he was doing there. He's under a lot of pressure now both to protect his boss Cummings and to carry on this smokescreen to get the public to overlook the statistics of how poorly the UK has prevented thousands of deaths. This Cummings episode has all the hallmarks of a Cummings tactical manoeuvre, Boris and Cummings locked in a circle of protecting each other and both becoming untouchable.

Fortunately there are some Tories with a tiny bit of moral and metal who hopefully will continue to push the issue.



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Re: Coronavirus [Re: cools] #1077651
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Well, I'm not here to answer to his actions. He has given his statement and we can all make our own decisions.

I will ask if anyone here has had relatives who have had Covid 19 symptoms. ? My daughter and most of her school staff did, back in February/early March. The school had taken a group of children to Italy early in February, and one of the parents had been diagnosed with Covid 19. My daughter was extremely poorly as was her partner. Their 4 yrs old daughter was looked after by her grandfather because her parents couldn't do anything physical or care for her. This was before the lockdown was introduced.
Had the child have been school age, she could have attended school,, like many children have over this period.

So, unless we've been in a similar situation, which just about applies to anything trauma related, we are not privy to stand in judgement .

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Re: Coronavirus [Re: cools] #1077652
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Cummings and his wife only had symptons of CV, and he was not incapacitated.
He is trying to make out he and his wife were going to die or in danger of attacks, and I'm afraid, it looks like he is just laying it on a bit thick to me, and many others.

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Originally Posted by granny
So, unless we've been in a similar situation, which just about applies to anything trauma related, we are not privy to stand in judgement .


No, these are public servants being employed by us, we have every right to judge if our employees' actions are appropriate or not.

They set the lockdown laws and Cummings did not follow the law.

If nothing else, the fact that the cover story changed three times made it indefensible.


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: granny] #1077654
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Originally Posted by granny

Well, I'm not here to answer to his actions. He has given his statement and we can all make our own decisions.

I will ask if anyone here has had relatives who have had Covid 19 symptoms. ? My daughter and most of her school staff did, back in February/early March. The school had taken a group of children to Italy early in February, and one of the parents had been diagnosed with Covid 19. My daughter was extremely poorly as was her partner. Their 4 yrs old daughter was looked after by her grandfather because her parents couldn't do anything physical or care for her. This was before the lockdown was introduced.
Had the child have been school age, she could have attended school,, like many children have over this period.

So, unless we've been in a similar situation, which just about applies to anything trauma related, we are not privy to stand in judgement .


Yes granny my son in law, not only did he have symptoms he had it,wasn't tested initially no testing kits facilities ( but guess who got tested in Aberdeen a week later HRH and Boris,he couldn't get through on 111 when he got home very poorly returned to work six weeks later and had to be tested as he works off shore, still tested positive, would have been impossible for him to swan off to look after his family wouldn't it? but then we live in the real world.

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Very sorry to hear about your son in law Casper. So I assume he had the symptoms and travelled home. Then travelled back to work in Aberdeen , still carrying the virus ?

Does he have any small children he had to look after ?

Anyway, I'm done with this, it's all over the news, all over the press, all over social media.. like a pack of hounds after a fox.

I would like to know exactly a) what will be achieved if DC resigns or is sacked, and b) who will be the next one put through the mincer by the all so condemning public. Oh yes, Prince Andrew's turn again soon , or maybe Prince Charles because he got tested before others.


Let's be honest, the worst has only just begun. Good luck to one and all.


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Originally Posted by granny


Very sorry to hear about your son in law Casper. So I assume he had the symptoms and travelled home. Then travelled back to work in Aberdeen , still carrying the virus ?

Does he have any small children he had to look after ?

Anyway, I'm done with this, it's all over the news, all over the press, all over social media.. like a pack of hounds after a fox.

I would like to know exactly a) what will be achieved if DC resigns or is sacked, and b) who will be the next one put through the mincer by the all so condemning public. Oh yes, Prince Andrew's turn again soon , or maybe Prince Charles because he got tested before others.


Let's be honest, the worst has only just begun. Good luck to one and all.


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Yes granny he was sent home by taxi, and when he went back was told not to use public transport, hire a car, taxi etc, he also paid for a flat for 21/2 weeks so as to isolate from his family, but that's by the bye, he followed the regulations, perhaps Dominic Goings could have hired a taxi or some other form of transport to take his family a much safer option wouldn't you agree, especially if he had doubts about his fitness to drive safely, anyway as you say this has been done to death now, only need to wait for the verdict. xxx

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The press and Parliament will not let this go. Just sack him, then we can all move on smile

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Yes I think everyone's let off steam and really we need to get back to the virus itself and getting the economy going again, that's the most important thing , I want to get back to near normality again. I miss my grandkids terribly , I see them doing the social distancing but the little one is only two and toddles towards me where I have to shush her away , it's so horrible.
Dominicgate will sort itself out one way or another whatever any if us think, let's move on eh...

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Sorry to keep going on about DC but this made me laugh. laugh

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Hi mikeeb, this made me smile too; I think we all need a little humour right now!

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This tells me one thing, Dominic Cummings is pulling the strings at No 10, and Boris is the puppet! or should that be Muppet?

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It looks like SAGE is being over ruled for political reasons, scientists say this is not the right time to ease lock down, we have an unelected tail wagging the dog, what is the use of a committee that can be over ruled at anytime ? apparently New Brighton had one of its busiest times yet, lets hope this hasn't lit the fuse for phase 2, the governments blase nod nod wink wink approach has encouraged this to happen, I wonder who they will blame?

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