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Re: House through time
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20th May 2020 7:04pm
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Me too. I really enjoyed the last one and I think he (can't remember his name) is an excellent presenter. Thanks for heads up, Cools
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Re: House through time
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I'm going to get myself a nice glass of lager and settle down for this, lose myself in History...
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Re: House through time
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They may not have been used as slave labour but some were used as household slaves to the wealthy. So saying Britain was one of the countries were it never existed is not true because we were one of the largest in the world utilising slaves. Britain traded slaves and used them for slave labour on the plantations making commodities brought back to Britain. The National Archives: 'The development of the trade. Portugal and Britain were the two most 'successful' slave-trading countries accounting for about 70% of all Africans transported to the Americas. Britain was the most dominant between 1640 and 1807 when the British slave trade was abolished.' http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/slavery/pdf/britain-and-the-trade.pdf
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Re: House through time
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28th May 2020 4:13pm
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They may not have been used as slave labour but some were used as household slaves to the wealthy. So saying Britain was one of the countries were it never existed is not true because we were one of the largest in the world utilising slaves. You are mixing up slavery and servitude, servitude still goes on in Britain legally to this day. Nothing alters the fact that many countries had slavery legally inside their borders whereas British law has always been against slavery in Britain. What money finances what can always be raised as an issue - I bet some of your money finances illegal activity. Then there is the moral question as to what is wrong and what is right during any epoch, no doubt at some time in the future all forms of life will be sacrosanct and cruelty to plants will be an issue - laughable now but they will be looking back at us in disdain. Its not long ago you expected a copper to give kids a clip around the ear, look at us now, even the parents aren't allowed to do that! Times change, what is wrong now doesn't mean it was wrong at the time - if you'd approached my cave a few thousand years ago I would have been perfectly right to kill you first and ask questions later.
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Re: House through time
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You are mixing up slavery and servitude, servitude still goes on in Britain legally to this day.
Nothing alters the fact that many countries had slavery legally inside their borders whereas British law has always been against slavery in Britain. Come on DD, you are just being pedantic here. "Domestic servitude is the seemingly normal practice of live-in help that is used as cover for the exploitation and control of someone, usually from another country." Then there is the moral question as to what is wrong and what is right during any epoch, no doubt at some time in the future all forms of life will be sacrosanct and cruelty to plants will be an issue - laughable now but they will be looking back at us in disdain. Its not long ago you expected a copper to give kids a clip around the ear, look at us now, even the parents aren't allowed to do that!
Times change, what is wrong now doesn't mean it was wrong at the time - if you'd approached my cave a few thousand years ago I would have been perfectly right to kill you first and ask questions later. Because it was ok back then does not mean it should be forgotten about today and brushed under the carpet, just because it used to be acceptable a few centuries ago. Britain was one of the most prolific in gaining wealth through the slave trade. Paint it how you want but it is well documented. A lot of changes in History are for the better, realising the mistakes of the past.
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