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Well said Granny, a lot of it too deep for me but I get the gist of it... Boris has got to prove himself and be given a chance as you say no one else on the horizon for me , at least he said increasing police force although that’s just replacing the ones that we lost but hell a step in right direction. I’m going to keep hoping and be positive about him .....

So a guy with a track record of failing at previous positions he has had is given the benefit of the doubt, yes he's got to prove himself but no he won't do it, indeed he has already failed by the end of day one!.

He failed as Foreign Secretary by insulting numerous foreign people.

He failed as London Mayor by silly projects that wasted huge amounts of money.

Just look at the cabinet appointments.

A person that breached security is in charge of security.

Another person sacked for security breach is also in the cabinet.

A banker that helped the banks collapse and was aware of tax avoidance scams in his company is treasurer.

Someone that doesn't believe in workers rights as trade secretary.

An Education secretary that makes Jacob Reese Mogg look contemporary.

He's already failed!

The trouble is DD is people are tribal, Boris is waving the Union Flag, indicating past glories the Empire etc, come on chaps we are British, we can do it, simple indoctrination, if you don't back his version or his dream of Great Britain then you are a traitor a communist along with the piccaninies and the bum boys, his earlier preoccupation with smashing restaurants up gives us a disturbing insight into his mindset that you can pay to make things go away,




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Yes Boris is a classic example of an Eton bully that hasn't grown up, surely people don't really see him a leader and don't trust him with power???

Its literally only weeks since he was classed a clown with very few disputing it.

You will notice he goes "missing" now and then while the PR gurus strap him in chair for a few days and re-indoctrinate him then he suddenly re-appears and talks like he is a bit less of a buffoon than normal, but it doesn't last and he disappears again.

He is the ultimate fall guy for the Conservatives, if he goes down he won't take the party with him, everybody will just revert to calling him a clown, not the Conservatives' clown.

Barnier's figure for leaving the EU, is £60 billion ! Is it worth it ?

Nobody has answered my previous question.. Who would they like to see as leader of which party and who in the cabinet ?

George Galloway and a either resurrected Respect Party or the Labour Party with Brexit.

Galloway, Corbyn, Livingstone, McDonnell and Skinner (no surprises there).

That wouldn't be allowed, ...... George Galloway just been sacked from talk Radio for an anti-Semitic tweet . I know you have always followed George , and he's got his good points I suppose (supporting the Palestinian people).
I'm pretty furious that free speech is in decline, but when making such a tweet, he was clearly asking for backlash.

I have been monitoring some posts on social media following an increase in Tory propaganda threads, the comments mainly come from those that wish to leave and racists, basically the same make up as Brexit party supporters, so its not about the man but the policy although both Boris and Farage present themselves as thoroughly decent chaps ready with a quip to charm the gullible, some what akin to the proverbial used car salesman.

So you think politicians should present themselves as indecent non-persuasive people? What you are saying is that you damn them either way!

In the eyes of leavers the remainers are gullible, in the eyes of remainers the leavers are gullible. Nobody can deny that project fear exists.



Are you saying the policy is racist?

What i'am saying DD is that the facade of hail fellow well met disguises what they represent, you knew what Thatcher represented she made no secret of it.

I never said nor implied the policy is racist, I read comments from those that wished to leave, basically saying lets get it done and I also read some comments that suggest that those from other countries should go home or be returned, "so we can have our country back", probably because nationalism encourages some to say that, sadly the Union flag and the cross of St George has been hijacked as a rallying base for some of these groups,

What concerns me more than leaving or staying is what we will inherit after the dust settles.

Without about 23 years out of the last 40 years having gross mismanagement of our economy its going to catch up with us anyway.

The EU will collapse at sometime, the sooner we distance ourselves the better. They simply haven't got the money to bribe countries to stay in and they haven't got the money to finance the countries on the waiting list. Even if we remained the EU's sugar daddy they are running out of money fast.

To demonstrate how the bribery is in action, Poland has the most EU subsidies by far (possibly more than all the other subsidised countries added together?) yet Poland doesn't have much of a national debt, much less than ours or France's and even less than Germany's (in the common term of debt as a percentage of GDP). Why are they heavily subsidising a country that is not badly in debt yet taking money off countries that owe much more.

and a population that has dropped by 7 million to 38 million since 2011, whilst ours and others have risen to almost double their now population.. Makes one think !!

Mrs Merkel was raised in East Germany , maybe they like to stay friends through thick and thin.