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Bromborough - Marfords Estate #1062910
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I have in my possession a photograph that I'm trying to date - it shows houses on the Marfords Estate in Bromborough being built (Marfords Av and Cunningham Dr). Does anyone have a definitive date as to when that was please? - it would be a big help.
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Re: Bromborough - Marfords Estate [Re: billy_anorak59] #1062911
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Can't give an exact date, none of the above addresses appear in the 1938 directory, surrounding roads do, Marfords Farm, Dibbinsdale, Marfords Cottages, Allport Lane.


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Thanks for looking Bert - appreciated.
I suspect the houses to have been built late 50s, early 60s, but I can't find anything on the exact date.


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Anyone with a subscription to British Newspapers will be able to open the following,




BIRTHDAY GREETINGS


BIRTHDAY GREETINGS

“... of Mrs. Clark (Ned), of Vancouver. Interment Kirkdale Cemetery, to-morrow (Saturday), 11 a.m. SHORTER—Oct. 22, 1 Marford Avenue, Bromborough, on her 63rd birthday. ROSE, dearly-beloved wife of Arthur Edward and devoted mother four sons and three daughters ...”

23 October 1942 - Liverpool Echo - Liverpool, Lancashire, England


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Just an idea of dates,




NEW SUPERIOR DETACHED HOUSES. BLYTH LODGE ESTATE, GREENACRE DRIVE. OFF MARFORDS AVENUE BROMBOROUGH Three only remaining, TYPE 'A' Detached 3


NEW SUPERIOR DETACHED HOUSES. BLYTH LODGE ESTATE, GREENACRE DRIVE. OFF MARFORDS AVENUE BROMBOROUGH Three only remaining, TYPE 'A' Detached 3

“... NEW SUPERIOR DETACHED HOUSES. BLYTH LODGE ESTATE, GREENACRE DRIVE. OFF MARFORDS AVENUE BROMBOROUGH Three only remaining, TYPE 'A' Detached 3 bedroomed House with garage and full warm air central heating. Superior Hygena fittings. Lounge, dining room, ...”

08 September 1967 - Liverpool Echo - Liverpool, Lancashire, England




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“... brick , through lounge, lore" dining/kitchen. Pleasantly situated. near station. open rear aspects: £4.675.-68 Marfords Avenue Bromborough 2426 BROMBOROUGH. - A well maintained Semi built 1957; 2 reception rooms, 3 bedrooms bathroom and kitchen. large ...”

09 April 1966 - Liverpool Echo - Liverpool, Lancashire, England

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Brilliant Bert!! - but...

The photograph is an aerial and doesn't show Greenacre Drive - it looks like that was added into the grounds of Dibbinsdale Hotel a few years after the main development.
Narrows things down a bit though - so thanks again.


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68 Marfords Ave, built 1957.

Echo 1966


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Marfords estate was built early in the 60's. I played in the new houses as they went up.

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Thanks for your first post Bill - welcome to Wiki!

That confirms what I reckoned - so about '61 or '62? I've attached a clip of the photograph - see if it matches your recollections!!

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According to google maps, if I'm correct, 68 Marfords Ave is marked Blue (approx) and according to the advert, built 1957.

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Once again, thanks Bert - 1957 is quite a definitive answer isn't it? With the proof too - just what I was hoping for, even if it's a few years earlier than I thought, as Mendell School is shown on other pictures in the series I have, and I had that down as being built 1959.


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Billy,

There's a couple of snippets in the 1961 Liverpool Echo, parents complaining about Mendell School not being completed, having only 2 classrooms in use, children having to travel to Heygarth Rd school. Parents threatening to keep children off school until the Ministry do something about it.


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Appreciated Bert - thank you, it all helps a lot.

It's interesting - but I can't make the definitive date that draws all the photos together - we've got the Marfords house building at 1957, and Mendell School at 1960-61, and I can't imagine that the photographer made more than one flight over the same area (he was based in a shop in New Ferry), so I would have thought they were all taken on the same date.

Mendell 'looks' complete:

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It's only supposition on my part, I read it as the building was probably complete but only had 2 classrooms fit for purpose.

No idea why but it was enough for parents to show displeasure with the authorities.


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Billy,

Because I haven't got a subscription, this is what I see.
You have to read between the lines and fiddle through.

1961,

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