I have in my possession a photograph that I'm trying to date - it shows houses on the Marfords Estate in Bromborough being built (Marfords Av and Cunningham Dr). Does anyone have a definitive date as to when that was please? - it would be a big help.
Thanks.

Can't give an exact date, none of the above addresses appear in the 1938 directory, surrounding roads do, Marfords Farm, Dibbinsdale, Marfords Cottages, Allport Lane.

Thanks for looking Bert - appreciated.
I suspect the houses to have been built late 50s, early 60s, but I can't find anything on the exact date.

Anyone with a subscription to British Newspapers will be able to open the following,




BIRTHDAY GREETINGS


BIRTHDAY GREETINGS

“... of Mrs. Clark (Ned), of Vancouver. Interment Kirkdale Cemetery, to-morrow (Saturday), 11 a.m. SHORTER—Oct. 22, 1 Marford Avenue, Bromborough, on her 63rd birthday. ROSE, dearly-beloved wife of Arthur Edward and devoted mother four sons and three daughters ...”

23 October 1942 - Liverpool Echo - Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Just an idea of dates,




NEW SUPERIOR DETACHED HOUSES. BLYTH LODGE ESTATE, GREENACRE DRIVE. OFF MARFORDS AVENUE BROMBOROUGH Three only remaining, TYPE 'A' Detached 3


NEW SUPERIOR DETACHED HOUSES. BLYTH LODGE ESTATE, GREENACRE DRIVE. OFF MARFORDS AVENUE BROMBOROUGH Three only remaining, TYPE 'A' Detached 3

“... NEW SUPERIOR DETACHED HOUSES. BLYTH LODGE ESTATE, GREENACRE DRIVE. OFF MARFORDS AVENUE BROMBOROUGH Three only remaining, TYPE 'A' Detached 3 bedroomed House with garage and full warm air central heating. Superior Hygena fittings. Lounge, dining room, ...”

08 September 1967 - Liverpool Echo - Liverpool, Lancashire, England




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“... brick , through lounge, lore" dining/kitchen. Pleasantly situated. near station. open rear aspects: £4.675.-68 Marfords Avenue Bromborough 2426 BROMBOROUGH. - A well maintained Semi built 1957; 2 reception rooms, 3 bedrooms bathroom and kitchen. large ...”

09 April 1966 - Liverpool Echo - Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Brilliant Bert!! - but...

The photograph is an aerial and doesn't show Greenacre Drive - it looks like that was added into the grounds of Dibbinsdale Hotel a few years after the main development.
Narrows things down a bit though - so thanks again.

68 Marfords Ave, built 1957.

Echo 1966

Marfords estate was built early in the 60's. I played in the new houses as they went up.

Bill.1

Thanks for your first post Bill - welcome to Wiki!

That confirms what I reckoned - so about '61 or '62? I've attached a clip of the photograph - see if it matches your recollections!!

According to google maps, if I'm correct, 68 Marfords Ave is marked Blue (approx) and according to the advert, built 1957.

Once again, thanks Bert - 1957 is quite a definitive answer isn't it? With the proof too - just what I was hoping for, even if it's a few years earlier than I thought, as Mendell School is shown on other pictures in the series I have, and I had that down as being built 1959.

Billy,

There's a couple of snippets in the 1961 Liverpool Echo, parents complaining about Mendell School not being completed, having only 2 classrooms in use, children having to travel to Heygarth Rd school. Parents threatening to keep children off school until the Ministry do something about it.

Appreciated Bert - thank you, it all helps a lot.

It's interesting - but I can't make the definitive date that draws all the photos together - we've got the Marfords house building at 1957, and Mendell School at 1960-61, and I can't imagine that the photographer made more than one flight over the same area (he was based in a shop in New Ferry), so I would have thought they were all taken on the same date.

Mendell 'looks' complete:

It's only supposition on my part, I read it as the building was probably complete but only had 2 classrooms fit for purpose.

No idea why but it was enough for parents to show displeasure with the authorities.

Billy,

Because I haven't got a subscription, this is what I see.
You have to read between the lines and fiddle through.

1961,

Another snippet I've come across

1963,

I appreciate you fiddling though for me Bert!

Looking at the rest of the pictures, the only other one that might date them is one which shows a slightly distant view of Bromborough Power Station (the CEGB one). Alongside it are three oil tanks (on the Eastham side), which suggest it has been converted to oil firing, especially as the coal stockyard is empty. I don't suppose you (or anyone else) have any access to information as to when the conversion took place?
I 'may' have read it in the 'Railways of Port Sunlight and Bromborough Port' book that it was around 1960? (which fits) - but I don't have it to hand right now.
Thanks again for your time.

Billy,

The only snippet I can find, hope it's helpful.

It might give me a hook to dig deeper Bert, but it seems to infer (to me anyway) that it is a new power station (why would you need trial bores for a power station built 1949-50?)
Thanks for the snippet though - all good stuff for the research.

Here's a blow up of the power station bit I'm talking about if anyone's interested:

Billy,

The complete article will no doubt refer to elsewhere "Bore Holes" this snippet at least proves the Oil Tanks (oil fired) were in place by 1962.

an earlier posting you contributed to, page 2

https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/288885/2.html

Forgot about that thread Bert - thanks!

Most of page 2 is referring to the two other power stations in the area - the 'Merseyside Power Station' for Levers, and the 'Central Power Station' which was a smaller scale backup station for Stork.
The third power station, the CEGB one in my picture was slightly further down the river bank towards Eastham.
Don't know what that proves, but just thought I might clarify!

Thanks again for the help.