Forums Forums National News Why On Earth Did They Arrest Him?

If this goes to trail and he gets sent to jail, the Judge and jury should hang thier heads in shame, and the same goes to the ones that sent Tony Martin there,
It just goes to show how our legal systems needs a big over haul, its out of date! Just like the way the Government is run in this counrty
For the people by the people, i think i remember someone saying!

I find this quite extraordinary. The implication is that it's perfectly OK to murder to beat up some people but not others. What sort of rule of law is that? Bizarre!

Totally agree Venice,

what else where the police to do, they have a dead body, do they say "oh it's ok he was stabbed by a OAP we'll look the other way"

he won't get done for murder it will be manslaughter, the law says you can use reasonable force but I (myself) think stabbing someone is not reasonable force, I see it as stuff that gets robed can get replaced is it worth a life over.

look at all the stabbings going on in London/Liverpool should the police just walk on by and do f-all

you can't pick and choose what is a crime to suit yourself

Since the new laws in 2013, most similar cases have been charged but the CPS have taken the case no further.

My main gripe was arresting him on the spot before investigation was carried out, there was absolutely no need. What was the advantage of doing that?

There are implications from an arrest apart from the obvious distress, one of these being that he will be unlikely (or at least exceedingly difficult) to be able to get an American Visa should he want to visit the States, this probably applies to many other countries as well, VISA waver programs have exclusions and these can include arrests.

How on earth do you know? You were not there and really have little idea of what actually went on. For all you and I know, the pensioner could have been threatening the police with the knife, attempting to destroy evidence or threatening to hunt down and kill the other burglar.

You are welcome to an opinion, but please don't present it as if it were a fact.

Its a fact he was arrested for murder, that is not normally the charge for "threatening the police with the knife" or "attempting to destroy evidence" or "threatening to hunt down and kill the other burglar".

Yet again you resort to a personal attack based on your impression of what I think and not what I wrote, why do you do that?

This is a public forum, all posts are opinions unless stated otherwise, when I use the words "my main gripe" it would clearly indicate that it is an opinion.

I think the police have no choice but to arrest him at that Time I think they would of charged with attempted murder as it says the guy died in hospital and not at the scene, they would also need to remove him from the house so forensics can do their thing. And they would call a police doc if he was in a bad way (I hope)

And no charges are going to be brought SOURCE

However, because he has been arrested he would now need a visa if he wishes to visit America, not only is this a real faff to achieve, it may be refused.

he won't get done for murder it will be manslaughter, the law says you can use reasonable force but I (myself) think stabbing someone is not reasonable force, I see it as stuff that gets robed can get replaced is it worth a life over.

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Well that's alright then, only manslaughter! this isn't about stealing peoples belongings, this is about a burglar allegedly armed with a screwdriver breaking into an OAP's house, how did the homeowner know what his intentions were? he is faced with two youngish assailants, what went through his head? torture, rape the safety of his family I don't think he was worrying about his telly being pinched,

Well thankfully sense prevails. He will face no charges it just said on the news. The burglar was 37 and already had convictions for robbery.

This is just me thinking out loud but I would like to know if this was a 30/40 year old guy would he be let off as well. (let off maybe the wrong word but I can't think of another word to use)

Does it matter what age someone is ? fear has no age limit, fight or flight, I chased someone climbing over our back door, the first thought is outrage how dare they what gives them the right, the red mist descends and rational thinking and sense go out of the door ( along with the house breaker) its very easy to act on impulse, it's afterward when you think about what could have happened.

One exception stated as a possibility was if you were drunk etc where your judgement of the situation could be impaired. There is still no right to attack a person who is just a trespasser.

The 2013 act clarified reasonable force as not "grossly disproportionate" in situations where you are defending a place of residence.

The poor pensioners life changed forever now,he's got to live with having taken someone's life, something he was provoked into. Something like this could kill a person mentally and at his age too. The other one not been caught yet that must be a worry as well.