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Originally Posted by starakita
If my pet gets a cut I wash it in lukewarm water & sea salt dry it then put sudocrem on it.If it got worse then it's the vet,I spent a lot of money on Misty in the last couple of years but I would of gone without for her.I did get a lot of her medication online but it was the toe removal & aftercare that cost but it was worth it so she could walk without pain & to have her happy again even if it was only for a few months.
thumbsupsudocrem i used on my house rabbit rabbit works wonders Star x

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Originally Posted by fish5133
Poor kitty has hurt foot quite badly although he is happy and jumping around and over fences as usual. Possibly broken toe or nail gone through. Hole and build up of pus according to vet. My wife wont tell me what vet estimated cost at but ive done search to get rough idea. Ouch........ financial hardship anyone know a good solicitor to deal with impending divorce !!! Wife not taken out pet insurance
Grim indeed. Not as grim as the NHS being privatised under our noses. Humans will be treated the same as this poor kittty upon full 'roll-out'

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Originally Posted by fish5133
Might be interesting to see what the vet would say if i just said sorry cant afford to pay that so would you put it to sleep (its a healthy happy cat with a small cut on its paw that looks to be healing )
The fee is your responsibility- are you saying that you would prefer the vet to put the cat to sleep rather than pay for its treatment for a 'small cut'?

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My vet was fine paid so much every time I went,didn't have to pay the whole lot at once


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Venice..Too scared to have a go at treating it myself now that its on the vets radar. Read stories of vets tipping RSPCA off when animals not brought back to vet for treatment.

Good news its toe didnt need amputating. back from vets after anaesthetic and wound clean and stitches and plastic funnel round its neck...no he hasnt .just got it off...going to be a game for next 10 days . Wife wouldnt tell me the bill but a quick look at bank statement was bad but not as bad as expected. Had already primed my mortgage company they might not get paid this month.thankfully not that much..maybe a couple of evenings her walking Corporation Road !!!

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People forget that pets are not people. It isn't even respectful to treat them as such. We have a dog and I am very fond of her, but I know she will die in a few years and am prepared for it. I will miss her ways of course but no way would I mistake our relationship as one between two humans.

One of the big differences between us is that I can recognise that painful or medical treatment is for my own good and hopefully will result in a cure. She cannot, and for that reason, I think death is often the kinder option. I certainly wouldn't put her through the pain and distress of a hip replacement for instance.

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Dogs are so much more adaptable than us, have you seen how many blind or three legged dogs have as much fun running around woods as any other.

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One of the big differences between us is that I can recognise that painful or medical treatment is for my own good and hopefully will result in a cure. She cannot, and for that reason, I think death is often the kinder option.

And how would you justify that treatment to a human baby and yet not your pet?


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Glad it wasnt as bad as you anticipated fish - I honestly dont think you need to worry about vets reporting you for such minor things though .Also think its fine to treat minor external ailments in pets to start with , and then resort to vet if remedy doesnt work.

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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Amazing how humans consider themselves so self-important. We are only a another mammal!

Our only claim to fame is our supposed intellect but you only have to pick a newspaper up to show how poor our intellect is. The world is a mess thanks to our wonderful intellect.

We aren't the biggest.
We aren't the smartest.
We aren't the best hunter.
We aren't the best biological parasite.
We haven't got the best eyesight.
We haven't got the best hearing.
We haven't the best sense of smell.
We haven't got the best sense of taste.
We haven't got the best sense of touch.
We haven't got the best balance.
We aren't the strongest.
We aren't the fastest runners.
We haven't got the best stamina.
We aren't the most energy efficient.
We aren't the most resilient to weather (hot, cold, wet etc).
We can't fly.
We aren't the best swimmers.
We haven't got the best immune systems.
We aren't the most prolific breeders.
We aren't the most loyal.

In fact our only claim to fame is that we are the best destroyers.

Now who is more important? Can you give a hierarchy of importance for all types of mammals?


How does "we aren't best hunter" reconcile with "we are the best destroyer"?
To reply to most of these, we have adapted our way of living to allow for the deficiencies and our senses are adequate for our needs. We have developed machines to help us with stamina,to move faster, to move over water and to fly. We have developed medicines to help our immune systems. We invented clothes to give us resilience to weather.

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How does "we aren't best hunter" reconcile with "we are the best destroyer"?


Because destruction has little to do with hunting and hunting has little to do with destruction. It is far easier for us to destroy another creature than capture it, something that could be argued is the opposite for most other creatures. We intentionally destroy things without even knowing it (as an individual) exists.

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To reply to most of these, we have adapted our way of living to allow for the deficiencies and our senses are adequate for our needs. We have developed machines to help us with stamina,to move faster, to move over water and to fly. We have developed medicines to help our immune systems. We invented clothes to give us resilience to weather.


I think the human race as a whole can hardly be described as having everything "adequate for its needs", there is an enormous amount of unnecessary pain and suffering out there.

We invented clothes that destroyed our natural protection from the weather then to top that we made it rude/obscene/illegal to not wear them. Between those two thing we have partly destroyed ourselves physically and psychopathically. What is the advantage of HAVING to wear clothes? We aren't the only creatures that make and wear clothes.

Despite denial for hundreds of years, there are numerous other creatures that create tools and even use medicines.

We think we are fast? There are some creatures that proportional to their size can move at what would be 1300 mph in a human.

We could be creative without being destructive but we have a dominant destructive streak (call it greed/jealousy or whatever you like) that will always hold us back.


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