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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: diggingdeeper] #1051206
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You can questions DD, but you won't get any answers. One councillor I challenged about the increases in pay for one CEO said they have to pay the higher salary because of competition and they want the best !

Well , did they get the best in either of the last two or is it three ?

Just so long as people know. Parking meters are already at :

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/controversial-wirral-car-parking-plans-14133659

Arrowe Country Park
Eastham Country Park
Royden Country Park
Wirral Country Park.
Fort Perch Rock.

Charges here :
https://www.wirral.gov.uk/parking-roads-and-travel/parking/parking-charges-country-parks


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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1051208
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Royden has been delayed to 15th I believe.

As for paying for quality that is a fallacy, high prices often mean you are getting ripped off more.


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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: diggingdeeper] #1051340
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Royden Park parking charges start on 22nd January, I believe the Cafe has lowered prices in an attempt to offset the charges and limit the damage to its customers,at least somebody is trying, although it's never our shortsighted Council is it, words fail me sometimes.

Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1051341
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The cafe should has its business rates reduced as there is a loss of amenity. It certainly must have devalued the property.


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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1051349
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Benty Farm Cafe may benefit as parking in sandy lane and the common is still free although they are more expensive than Royden Park Cafe


Charges

Up to 1 hour 50p
2 hours £1.00
All day £2.00
Annual permit £50.00

Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1051409
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The annual wirral council budget is around £266 million. So the amount raised by the parking charges is around 0.09%. With losses to small business in places like New Brighton etc this will probably make absolutely no difference to the Council coffers......

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...and how much more will they be paying out (not just wages but pensions, and NI contributions, petrol, holidays, vehicle subs etc) for traffic wardens to parade all these places on an hourly basis to cover what will almost be the whole of Wirral.
How many more staff will be needed in the 'fines' department ?

There should be a few jobs going...get in quick !

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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: oldpm01] #1051413
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Originally Posted by oldpm01
The annual wirral council budget is around £266 million. So the amount raised by the parking charges is around 0.09%. With losses to small business in places like New Brighton etc this will probably make absolutely no difference to the Council coffers......


But if you consider much of the Council budget is inflexible expenditure, the flexible amount of budget is much smaller.

Also if you consider the Council has 1111 different budgetary items then each one would average 0.09%.


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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1051621
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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1051622
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Had my say. I was thinking when you pay to park at public places the cost of spending a penny is one pound thirty. Why not fund the toilets from the parking charges.

Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1051677
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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1066737
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Royden Park parking ticket machine kept on getting broken into (who would have thought a money box in the middle of nowhere wasn't safe?).

It is now cashless, you have to download an app onto your mobile phone in order to pay. Nothing like a bit of good countryside walking while struggling with a cr*ppy mobile app in an area with virtually no mobile signal.

Who on earth do we employ in the Council these days?


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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1066748
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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: diggingdeeper] #1066749
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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Royden Park parking ticket machine kept on getting broken into (who would have thought a money box in the middle of nowhere wasn't safe?).

It is now cashless, you have to download an app onto your mobile phone in order to pay. Nothing like a bit of good countryside walking while struggling with a cr*ppy mobile app in an area with virtually no mobile signal.

Who on earth do we employ in the Council these days?


People on high pay DD.
Councils are like parasites ....they allow business like new brighton to start then quickly introduce a way to make money out of the parking created .
I know where to park for free in liverpool centre / birkenhead/ new brighton etc its local knowledge.
Parking relies on people being lazy. Not walking abit.
Charges destroy business in its attempt to suck out another chunk of change.
After learning years ago about brian gerrish and common purpose and the money waste / high pay / corruption within councils via " agents of change " my eyes are open.
The echo has done a story on the over pay of " leaders " and 200k plus for " directors of transformation " etc etc.
Yet as per usual our C TAX goes up yearly as services are worse. Britains usual MO.

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