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Well, at least you have the data to criticise, although I note you do not supply mathematical justification for doing so.

I note also that the poll was commissioned by the SUN, a strong 'leave' supporter, so who actually wanted the fiddling done? The result would surely indicate the opposite of what th client would want to see?

As Poirot would say "But we do not 'ave a moteeeve, 'Astings!"

A further point - sort of relevant - is that nobody ever seems to point out that we have only 600 odd MPs, yet nobody claims this is too small to be representative of the UK. Indeed, Cameron wanted to reduce the number to 500!

My personal belief is that the number of MPs should be about the square root of the population bringing their number to around 8,000. Clearly this would require dramatic changes to the way parliament works - e,g. distributed parliamentary buildings, electronic voting etc. - and would be far too mind-buggering a concept for the Daily Mail and grannies around the country to approve of so it's not going to happen but there are excellent reasons for supporting it. This is not the thread for these, however.

Result = 74% to Leave EU
26% to Remain in EU

Now ex, that result will not convey anything to you as you already dismissed such a trivial matter. However , what it conveys to me is that 20 people on Wikiwirral must view your comments and reasoning as bollocks. Sorry, old chap.

Good one Granny we await The Grinch oops sorry Ex's reply....

Why apologise to me Granny? You are entitled to your views as am I. However you have rather foolishly proved the laughable uselessness of your poll, given that Wirral voted to remain. The actual figures are available here:

http://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/1...er_the_area__the_bigger_its_Leave_vote_/

Since then, I suspect remainers have grown in number.

I find it very sad that the poorer the area, the keener they are to leave, because these are precisely the ones who will suffer the most from the effects of brexit.

Incidentally, my views on brexit are mine and may or may not be bollocks. I take full responsibility for them, therefore. However the views I expressed on polls and what one needs to do to get them to give an accurate result are those of the mathematicians who developed the methodology not mine. It is the views of those people that you and the other 19 intellectual giants who voted on your 'poll' are trashing not mine.

I would guess that poll allowing for a bit of "weighting" means little has changed since the referendum rather than an imaginary swing to the remainers.

Interesting discussion on a clip i saw on youtube. Question asked what could stop/ derail Brexit and the main response was catastrophic events in our economy (they could be engineered) or possibly war..Both scenarios were considered more likely than a second referendum because no political party would have the audacity to just call another referendum.

Gee thanks for the compliment Ex, never been called an intellectual giant before.

Well, an MP would be courageous now to suggest stopping brexit, but as more and more emerges about the implications and the public view changes, then it may become courageous to stick to brexit no matter what.

MPs are keenly interested in the views of their constituents for obvious reasons. Many will adjust their views to that of their constituents.

A 10% lead by remainers is a change whatever anyone says, and it may grow a lot wider. Personally, if that happens, it will not need a referendum. Parliament can do stop it.

Not at all Casper. I am sure I won't be the last!

I think I'd want to know who was being interviewed, who was doing interviews, and who was being paid.

Personally, I think the biggest threats are a piss-poor deal - which we will certainly get - and the public's reaction to it. It will be parliament who will stop it though, not another bloody referendum.