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It strikes me that all the ones who are opposing her leadership are the MP's who lost their seats in the last election. All fighting for revenge and in the hope that a pro Europe candidate will be elected as leader.
If there has ever been a move to topple the leadership in this country, it has to be this. Maggie Thatcher was ousted and by the looks of it Mrs May soon, which of course was threatened by Corbyn, only a couple of months ago.
What dark moves go on in Westminster, it's like a game of chess.
It could be said that the male population in this country are very misogynistic, and I hope that after all these ridiculous non important slants that have been directed at Mrs May, that those who call for a change don't get the one they dislike even more.
The whole thing is being stage managed, and it's got a huge amount to do with Momentum, and Corby ( of which I'm not even sure what his party is even called any longer ) is it Labour, Socialist Party of Great Britain, or what ? Certainly not New Labour, and all those elected Labour MP's will be ousted if he should ever be elected as leader of this country and replaced by those thinkers and doers from his own mind set.
I fail to understand how the same MPs' can support Corbyn as they did Blair and Brown which were completely different in their political persuasions. It would seem that many of the Labour MP's are two faced and not there for the electorate at all, just their jobs.
Roll on Diane Abbott, John McDonnell ,( and no doubt Len McClusky will be in the background somewhere) I say.... we wait for all the good things she and he have lined up for us, because I won't be affected for too long but as my daughter and one son are both left wingers and they have children of their won, I wish them what they wish themselves and good luck with their own children's future..

N.B. Ex, a polite request .Please refrain from further comments on any of my posts. I suggest you put me on ignore rather than being antagonistic.

You are right about one thing granny we could indeed end up with someone worse, there is a right(wing) rogues gallery to choose from.

I don't agree with the misogynist angle, she was put forward as PM because of the Thatcher factor, Maggie mark 2 and she has failed, I don't think the gender is specific, she didn't fail as a woman she failed as a PM in very difficult circumstances all of her parties making. However she lost no time in wishing Corbyn was getting a P45, maybe she should have wished that on some of her cabinet, or she could have blamed the Labour party, after all they have been blamed for everything else.

I have to admit that I never had much regard for her ,even going back to pre 2010 election and was not impressed when she was voted Leader of the party after Cameron waltzed off.
BUT, she is there and I think she is trying to play fair and unless we all get behind this Brexit thing instead of ripping our country apart , which shows us up to be a mess, why would we want Europe to be making jokes about us not being united on this front whilst they look for any tiny or large crevice to creep in like an army of soldier ants making their nest and eventually overrunning us with cross breed Brussels ants ? Because I believe that is on the cards if we are not careful.
Pleasing to 'remainers' I suppose.
You mentioned the Labour Party ,Casper. Tell me who is the Labour Party because I don't recognise any of them as a Labour Party ? It seems to change from middle ground to left, to far left. How can this be , do all the supporters fluctuate to such extremes and feel happy with it ? Very odd !

I don't think I've seen quite so many knives in one cabinet before, all queued up like the starting line at Aintree.

Yes, Labour has been infiltrated by the right wing Blairites hence Momentum came about to kick the party away from the Tories that robbed the name "Labour".

Tory party is also all over the place, TM's maiden speech would have been good enough for Keir Hardie and yet got a rounding applaud from the Tories.

There is nothing "fair" about a PM who has reduced the disposable income of most of the country but says she has increased it. She lies and people believe it, 12% cut for many and 20% rise for the very few, following the American model to the letter.

I have never understood the definition 'far left'.

With reference to her conference speech , I've just been looking at another forum (nationwide) discussing that very topic.
Amazingly, of over 30 posts all but 2 were in support of her, even the Labour members thought that she delivered well considering all things that the way she is being hounded by the press and the BBC and other party members is pretty despicable .
That surprised me, to be honest. Thought the general consensus would have been much the same as on here.

Commandant Corbyn in the mix for sneaky manoeuvers ! It could of course be the wrong news site to be reading.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexi...my-corbyn-over-theresa-may-fears-2017-10

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You mentioned the Labour Party ,Casper. Tell me who is the Labour Party because I don't recognise any of them as a Labour Party ? It seems to change from middle ground to left, to far left. How can this be , do all the supporters fluctuate to such extremes and feel happy with it ? Very odd !

I could ask the same of you granny who is the Conservative party? are they the self appointed custodians of GB who know what is best for every one, who speak of democracy but ignore it when it suits, going back to 1975 in the days of Harold Wilson, when it was feared the country was being overrun by communism and poor old HW was feared to be a communist puppet, they conspired with and supported a coup and military intervention to take over the running of the country, all in everyone's interest of course, because they know what is best for each and all, yes it's history but make no mistake the will to support organisations to overthrow a legally appointed government was there, that shows what they were/are capable of, what's the saying money and power corrupt anything to gain or hang on to power, true then true now.

I can remember watching a whole programme about that exact exercise, Casper. Back in the 1970's. It was not the Tories at all, it was the military , and that would have been a military coup. They were sitting in waiting all over the country, for the given signal, it was that close !

Is that what we want again ?

'Poor old' Harold Wilson was up to all sorts ! I also remember his office being secretly raided and documents going missing.

But if you think that Corbyn and McDonnell are the right ones for this country, then I won't argue . Good luck to all the Neo Marxists.

I can't bear the thought of JC, Abbott and co getting in Granny and as much as they say not I think there are alot of folk like ourselves. On the other hand I have gone off T May as I think she's quite weak and at the mo struggling to think who would be better, but I just hope there is a Super MP somewhere who will emerge and sort things out, not holding my breath though...

Read up on it again granny, do you honestly think ex military, arms dealers and other's including government agencies could put something together without support, as I say not officially involved, because that would be political suicide but through Conservative channels, many of the ex military with family links in the Tory party, and of course who would step into the breach, yes you've guessed it.

BIG BAD BORIS might be the next prime minister. The UK is falling apart.

When we get to that stage, who are primarily the Militaries allegiances ? Not a political party, they honour King/Queen and country. One political party cannot give orders in such circumstances and if you consider that to be the case, it could have been any of the political parties. But it was not. No matter what you read, the top brass of the Military were interviewed in that particular documentary and it was nothing to do with opposing political parties Tories, Liberals, or any of the others.

It doesn't always happen that anyone steps into the breach either. Quite often Military control continues for years in other countries. Military Junta, as in Greece, Military Law , or even stratocracy.

Boris will NOT be the next PM. He will not be given the vote by his own party members. That would be political suicide, and I fail to understand why everyone is so damned obsessed with this guy.

When a party is clowning around you might as well have clowns doing it.