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Thing is its not just IS getting bombed but innocent people as well. Just an aside...state execution by beheading was one of our pasttimes ...they are just copying us albeit sevarl hundred years later. Perhaps jihadi john could have been called old henry

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The buggers are everywhere too.

Honduras arrests five US-bound Syrians with stolen passports

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-34864193

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Originally Posted by granny
The buggers are everywhere too.

Honduras arrests five US-bound Syrians with stolen passports

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-34864193


Article is about refugees not terrorists.

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But Granny--the buggers are in Marseille albeit wannabe terrorists

A teacher at a Jewish school in the southern French city of Marseille has been stabbed by three people who shouted anti-Semitic insults at him.

One of them was wearing an Islamic State (IS) T-shirt, Marseilles prosecutor Brice Robin told Reuters.

Police said the teacher's life was not in danger. A hunt is under way for the attackers.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34864509

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Originally Posted by fish5133
But Granny--the buggers are in Marseille albeit wannabe terrorists

A teacher at a Jewish school in the southern French city of Marseille has been stabbed by three people who shouted anti-Semitic insults at him.

One of them was wearing an Islamic State (IS) T-shirt, Marseilles prosecutor Brice Robin told Reuters.

Police said the teacher's life was not in danger. A hunt is under way for the attackers.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34864509


They should get a really hefty punishment, before more join them . France is like an explosion waiting to happen, IMO.

The previous post of mine, sorry a mistake, but why did they steal passports ?
Looks like US are going to pull the plug on the 10,000 Syrians they said they would take.


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Listening to the various experts on terrorism that have appeared lately, in their opinion on home grown terrorists they say that they feel that they don't belong in the communities in which they live, disenfranchised, is this an excuse or a reason? I understand people are tribal, they tend to stick to their own, most people who originated or who are from other countries live in like communities that have been shaped and built up over the years, so basically they are surrounded by their old culture and way of life, those that have been born and bred here have been educated to the life, customs and the law of this country, one might suggest the best of both worlds, but then they decide they are not happy between two cultures so they pick their old culture and way of life which is not fully compatible with the country they live in, so now they have a choice to make, move to their homeland or stay and change the culture where they live, but because they are Westernised the homeland option doesn't sound too attractive they decide to impose what they want on their adopted country, so this then puts them at odds and makes them feel the are being unfairly treated because they cant have what they want, but that's just the way I view it.

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Morning Casper. Does anyone remember the United Nations Day for the Elimination of Racism? The millions of dollars spent world wide on promoting harmony, cultural diversity, citizenship, from here to Australia, to South Africa but I don't think it really included those who were supposedly being subjected to racial discrimination. The Caucasians races were those who promoted, responded and were ultimately educated from these initiatives, but have been failed by the same United Nations that forgot to include those who were most at risk, in the same scheme.

One begins to wonder if they already had an agenda which is now coming into fruition.

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...and according to this, which is the most recent I can find, they would now appear to be more concerned about their Cultural Heritage.


http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=51994#.Vk2tG_9Odjo


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Granny,i have had to go to many countries during my work/life and i can assure you that the majority of those countries i would not revisit on a voluntary basis,however when i was in those countries i bided by their laws/rules so why cannot people coming into our country abide by ours?

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Originally Posted by casper
Listening to the various experts on terrorism that have appeared lately, in their opinion on home grown terrorists they say that they feel that they don't belong in the communities in which they live,


Hmmm, is this what's going to happen when Wirral becomes part of Liverpool? (cf. another thread).


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Nice one buddy

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"What can we do to lessen the grip of fear from terrorism"


Click--- the ostrich principle--but quite effective

Another way would be to look at it statistically--which is fine at the moment.

At present IS don't have planes or warships

Most people being killed by "terrorists" or "friendly terrorists" are Muslims

Watch BB or similar programmes that result in brain numbing.

Bottle of Jack Daniels or the like.

Your own Kalashnikov under the bed.

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Originally Posted by hagar
Granny,i have had to go to many countries during my work/life and i can assure you that the majority of those countries i would not revisit on a voluntary basis,however when i was in those countries i bided by their laws/rules so why cannot people coming into our country abide by ours?


Hagar, I think you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say.

Overall, I think most people from different cultures do abide by our laws in this country, but integration for certain sectors of the community is not so easy.

We have attended our 'courses' and understand the ethics of cultural diversity, harmony and anti-racism. The certain communities to which I refer and Casper refers to, have not been encouraged or included to integrate by these same schemes, and it would appear that they are very much encouraged against it, when looking at the link below.

That can't be right in this society and the responsibility must lie with those who guide them,.. which isn't happening.

We, as a country seem to blend well with most and I try to understand what the problem is with one particular group.

Personally, I still think one major fault of ours is to class everyone from the middle east or Africa as Muslim. That is so wrong.There are different sects of Muslim and I would much prefer reference by their nationality, because different nationalities have different cultures. Syrians different to Egyptians, Libyans different to Turkish etc.

In that way, we could open our eyes a bit and realise that most are people with a loving heart, but that one word 'Muslim' builds on a message of hate... why ?

These ISIS as we know, are murderers and not of human spirit and the influx of asylum seekers has put fear into many which is natural. It would appear that they are not the problem so far, other than possible shortage of resources and the changes which will no doubt have to be overcome.

The link below, lists numerous reasons why a Muslim women should not work. It is not encouraging.

Like it or not, we are in a multicultural society and barriers have to be crossed.

How many of us understand Islam ? How many of us understand Buddhist, Hindu or even Christianity ? We more or less understand how to relate to e.g Indians, Malaysians, Chinese, Burmese, and get on with them. Most of the fears and hate seem to stem from ignorance on both sides of the fence.

That is why I say the Muslim religious leaders are not doing enough to help integration.

Of course, the question then arises ; do most Westerners want them to integrate or not ?

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This one gran?

http://www.islamweb.net/en/article/139358/employment-concerns-for-working-muslim-women-%EF%BF%BD%EF%BF%BD-i-islamic-guidelines

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