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#991426 - 13th Nov 2015 11:56pm France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 ***
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France has declared a national state of emergency and has closed its borders after at least 40 people were killed in multiple gun and bomb attacks in Paris.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-34815972

This is pretty bad.

There saying now its over 2 attackers have been killed.


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#991444 - 14th Nov 2015 12:10am Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: Mark]
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Mark, we've been vaguely discussing it on Jihadi John.

It is bad, still going on I think.
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#991466 - 14th Nov 2015 9:37am Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: Mark]
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I went to bed early last night so woke up to the terrible News. It's so bad! Really feel that every country will have to get together and go in hard and to hell with what's right or wrong, lawful or unlawful.i know you don't like that DD but there you go. Take them out with whatever it takes. If you can kill off the head of the snake maybe the rest will follow..

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#991468 - 14th Nov 2015 9:53am Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: Mark]
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It is really worrying,This jihad John, Is he dead.

Even if you beheaded this guy in public,He would not be bothered .
The guy has been brain washed that this is all for allah and he will die as a hero and go to heaven.
Sorry if most disagree but that is terrorists beliefs,
He does not care who he has killed.Even locking him up for life he will still feel the same way.
This attacks on France is just the same.
Scary though....... it could be us next.Who knows what these cold blooded murderers have got planned.


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#991469 - 14th Nov 2015 9:58am Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: Mark]
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Listening to one of the top men in MI5 (think it was ) on TV last week . He said the public are not aware of how many attempts have been thwarted and that it's not a question of if its when..Its so worrying and depressing.

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#991470 - 14th Nov 2015 10:03am Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: Mark]
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Similar thoughts. How are these young people so brainwashed , that at a moments notice they can go on an organised killing spree and as if like robots then blow themselves up.
Who or what is controlling these young minds. It's a very powerful ability to have complete control of them all to a point of self destruction.

1500 nationals have returned to France from various training camps around the world. Is it so difficult to pinpoint them ? Maybe we will if Russia comes on board over the same issues.

Despite all the things we don't like about surveillance, and all the complaining I have done about loosing our freedom, things eventually take on a different colour and I think it's a necessary part of , hopefully ,our ongoing protection .


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#991477 - 14th Nov 2015 1:35pm Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: granny]
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Originally Posted By: granny
Similar thoughts. How are these young people so brainwashed , that at a moments notice they can go on an organised killing spree and as if like robots then blow themselves up.
Who or what is controlling these young minds.
It's a very powerful ability to have complete control of them all to a point of self destruction.



That's exactly what they're like in my opinion - constantly virtually killing people then life imitate 'art' and they are so conditioned to the violence that it means nothing to them. The head honchos are very clever in channelling this violence to their own gain IMHO

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#991478 - 14th Nov 2015 1:40pm Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: Mark]
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The "allies" have killed HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of innocent civilians in these other countries without blinking an eyelid, in most cases - "its collateral damage" And we aren't even at war with these countries.

Then we are surprised that we get retaliatory strikes.

Then we are shocked that we lose a hundred innocent civilian lives.

If Iran had bombed Northern Ireland when we had the IRA problems there, do you think we would not have reacted?

We are playing ping-pong with the lives of civilians - send the politicians over there!
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#991488 - 14th Nov 2015 2:59pm Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: diggingdeeper]
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The "allies" have killed HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of innocent civilians in these other countries without blinking an eyelid, in most cases - "its collateral damage" And we aren't even at war with these countries.

Then we are surprised that we get retaliatory strikes.

Then we are shocked that we lose a hundred innocent civilian lives.

If Iran had bombed Northern Ireland when we had the IRA problems there, do you think we would not have reacted?

We are playing ping-pong with the lives of civilians - send the politicians over there!


That's because "we" are the goodies--or we like to think so. Think all the migrants heading this way know a lot more about whats going on than we do fed through the main stream media.
Clever the way certain global politicians and media make it sound that the bombs and carnage they have caused somehow doesn't "terrorise". Terror and terrorism is reserved for the "terrorists". Lets hope we can terrorise them more than they can terrorise us.

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#991497 - 14th Nov 2015 4:18pm Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: Mark]
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And people still insisting we should let in as many refugees as want to come without checks, I think not. Self preservation got to kick in here..Think we should be more stringent and everywhere else should as well. Borders closed in my opinion..I still think there must be somewhere these people can go and be kept together in one place until they can return, it would need all countries to involve and lots of help and money I know , but it's got to ve contained.

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#991499 - 14th Nov 2015 4:45pm Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: cools]
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I remember weeks ago taking criticism on this forum when I suggested the open door policy was in fact an invitation for terrorists....it now appears that one of the gunmen in Paris was a "Syrian Refugee" who came through Greece

I repeat what I said then close the doors before it is too late

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#991501 - 14th Nov 2015 4:55pm Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: Mark]
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There was a lot of us with you on this organiser and now it's happening, pure madness to make your country vulnerable to attack, and yes I know that we have terrorists allready here but don't lets increase their numbers..

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#991503 - 14th Nov 2015 5:14pm Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: organiser]
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I remember weeks ago taking criticism on this forum when I suggested the open door policy was in fact an invitation for terrorists....it now appears that one of the gunmen in Paris was a "Syrian Refugee" who came through Greece

I repeat what I said then close the doors before it is too late
Yep.He was in Greece seeking asylym.
Border control should take all there mobile phones off them.
I think its time to close the doors.But its far too late.We all saw it coming.



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#991504 - 14th Nov 2015 5:16pm Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: Mark]
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If they want to carry on bringing refugees in they should at least limit it to children with DNA relatives only, it seems a reasonable compromise between safety and humanitarianism.

It would also have the bonus of limiting the amount of young male economic migrants and conscription dodgers in.

In my mind if NATO/UN etc want to do something effective, they should create safe zones inside these countries, not get involved in the civil wars themselves, just create and protect the safe zones with no-go zones surrounding them. Mass migration just ends up creating more problems it doesn't resolve anything.

Civil wars, rightly or wrongly, are part of the development of countries, we've had enough of them in the UK, we should minimise our interference with others.
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#991516 - 14th Nov 2015 6:11pm Re: France : Terrorist Attack : 13/11/15 [Re: Mark]
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Tuesday 29 September 2015 18.37 BST

In remarks on the sidelines of the UN general assembly, the French foreign minister, Laurent Fabius, also raised the possibility of creating a handful of “safe zones” within Syria where displaced people could be protected both from barrel bombs dropped by the Assad regime and from attacks from Isis and other extremist groups.

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