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It should gave been halted long ago and contained somehow . Think the camps in Syria are a really good thing and if you are just wanting to feel safe then that's where you should go, at least the help can be given. Yes Granny it is a mixed bag , that's the trouble who is genuine and who is not? It's just a terrible situation for everybody us included. I can see a lot of trouble ahead for everybody . All kinds of national Front and EDL groups will increase and there will be bedlam. It troubles me greatly not for me but for my kids and grandkids. What a mess!!

Totally agree with you there Cools.Its frightening and its going to get worse.

[quote=cools]I. All kinds of national Front and EDL groups will increase and there will be bedlam. It troubles me greatly not for me but for my kids and grandkids. What a mess!!

So, who is going to oppose the fascists and who is going to sit around gossiping about it? #DirectAction NF and EDL are jokes now. 'National Action' seem to be the 'new' threat but even the older fascist groups (like NF and EDL) are laughing at them now. Liverpool 3 Nazis 0

They reckon they are coming back to the North West (just outside of Liverpool) on Saturday. We'll see

I'm not as well up on all this as you Rude so I'm only using the names I've heard in the past about these groups. The true situation hasent happened yet and I know I am a worrier but I do think there will be a surge in these kind if groups, allready hearing about it in other countries. I do hope I'm wrong and maybe I overthink things.

I am sorry to say this and truly hope I am wrong, but it will only take a terrorist outrage and loss of life here, and there will be a backlash against the perpetrators and their religion that will last for years, this in turn will encourage people to join organisations that offer a way show their frustrations against what they view as the cause.

I think there will be a backlash against Mrs M before long. Other countries are looking like they have just woken up to the severity of the problem now they are getting high numbers themselves at their borders, and will resent Germany prioritizing their own demographic problem and opening the floodgates without thinking it through properly how such a quick dramatic unscheduled movement of people would affect other countries.

Germany has many extreme right wing groups, just itching for confrontation.

Slightly off topic,but
Could some sort of deal be done with the Russians who are now putting troops and arms in Syria. Putin could then be seen by the world as the one who puts ISIS down which may cut down on the amount of refugees now trying to get into Europe.
Not sure now who the Syrian refugees are now fleeing from - Sadat or ISIS?

Don't think you mean Sadat, Derek. Try Bashar al Assad. I think ISIS is the greater threat though.

Thanks Chris - a senior moment
Can't keep up nowadays with changes of regimes etc in the world

Trouble with you lot is that anyone to the right of Karl Marx is a fascist. Give it a rest FFS

This is becoming a logistical nightmare. The Hungarian PM could be right, as it is not from only one country. Take the population of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and various others, the amount could be millions. As he has stated;

Viktor Orban urged consensus, saying migrants were "breaking the doors" and "millions" could reach Europe."They are over-running us," said Mr Orban, shortly before Hungary's parliament agreed to hand more powers to the army.

"They're not just banging on the door, they're breaking the doors down on top of us.

"Our borders are under threat. Hungary is under threat and so is the whole of Europe."

Having read this article linked, there are many difficulties to overcome that are already causing issues between and amongst the migrants from different ethnic backgrounds.

Note that to be a German citizen up until year 2000, one had to have German ancestry. How things change.

http://www.npr.org/2015/09/20/441732811/in-germany-migrants-find-footing-but-also-some-resistance

It is encouraging to see that from certain images, some of these people from the middle east are beginning to learn about the great European queuing system ! Others from Bangladesh and North Africa do not yet seem to have got the message.
I don't like it when they are using their strength in numbers to override the authorities at border control, and those who do, won't be doing any favours for all the others in the long term.
Let's hope a meeting this week will shed some light on what EU intend to enforce. Another few months and Europe could also be a sinking ship.

It is quite remarkable that for years the Exodus of the Jews mentioned in the Bible has been subject to being dismissed as fallacy, due to so called historians agreeing that the volume of people quoted as being 600,000 was not possible. They thought the numerical system must have been different at that time and probably really meant 600 families ! How wrong they were.

There is going to be a meeting on Wednesday to try solve this problem.
They should have held a meeting well before this started to get out of control.

This is an interesting link to those who may be interested ,about what goes on in other parts of the globe.

Go to the drop down bars and click on different regions for different countries. It gives fairly recent update of happenings.

Looks like Yemen could be the next.

http://www.irinnews.org/country/ye/yemen