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#960900 - 9th Sep 2015 7:58am New Brighton prom road
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Just wanted to say I'm not impressed with the so called resurfacing, then to hold a timed rally event! Way to go Council!
If you want to improve the road, rip it up and relay it, don't just put black glue on it and cover it with loose shit that then goes everywhere, like you have done to a few other roads in the area, We don't all drive around on four wheels!

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#960902 - 9th Sep 2015 8:24am Re: New Brighton prom road [Re: keef666]
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Cheaper to do that and eventually the cars flatten it.

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#960910 - 9th Sep 2015 10:42am Re: New Brighton prom road [Re: keef666]
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I've got to admit I was very cynical about those new cheap surfacing methods.

However I admit that after they've bedded in they are ok much to my amazement.
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#960927 - 9th Sep 2015 4:07pm Re: New Brighton prom road [Re: keef666]
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As Keef says not to nice if you are on two wheels,even worse should you come off.

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#960928 - 9th Sep 2015 5:02pm Re: New Brighton prom road [Re: diggingdeeper]
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I felt the same as DD about this type of surfacing.

The thing is, it is supposed to be good at filling the cracks and other small potholes and imperfections to a reasonable depth. Also it is supposed to be good at covering up 'reflective cracking', that is to say where previous reinstatement work is beginning to show through again. Quite often, this was where the green tubes for cable tv were laid about 20 years ago - only a few inches down, but what a legacy. To be fair, plenty of other examples are out there.

The small stones that are used (called dressing) are quite sharp and hard wearing, so a layer of about 8 to 10 mm is possible, which means that in a lot of cases, ironworks just need to be masked rather than raised. The stones are more expensive than the ones used in previous 'hot rolled' surfaces, but in a thinner coating it gives a larger spreading area for a given weight.

A metal roller must not be used to press the dressing into the adhesive bitumen undercoat, but a rubber one is ok - so they just let the cars do it a couple of hours later. That is another advantage - the short time-scale before traffic can go on it due to it being thin. The excess dressing can be swept away after 24 hours and re-used.

All this sounds ideal, but I still don't trust the stuff. I keep expecting the surface to be ripped off on a hot day if someone breaks hard. The stone dressing just seems to keep detaching from the surface. Even if the sweeper wagon comes along each week, there always seems to be a hazard from an accumulation of loose stones.

Just look at different roads. Some seem to be good from Day 1, while others seem to vary. This is often because one section was laid on one day and another on a different day. It seems that it takes a good resurfacing gang to get consistent results by adjusting the mix according to the weather and other conditions.

The manufacturers web sites make interesting reading, but I would recommend a site called Highways Maintenance which is written by a now retired highways engineer, and contains a wealth us useful information. How do you measure skid resistance, and what is a sand test? You can find out.

By the way, I don't think he likes this 'cheap stuff' either.

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#961003 - 9th Sep 2015 8:33pm Re: New Brighton prom road [Re: keef666]
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Wirral seems to use a very low standard specification for our roads, Ours had a "revolutionary" surface made by scraping up the old surface, braking it up and mixing it with bitumen for relaying and rolling. It looks awful but it was cheap!
The surface using chippings as around Leasowe Road- M53. I have seen this used before but usually on relatively unused country lanes, not heavily used feeder roads. One wonders how long it will last before all the chippings have worn away in bald, and slippery tracks.

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#961134 - 11th Sep 2015 6:50am Re: New Brighton prom road [Re: keef666]
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Some recent resurfacing has actually gone around parked cars look at belvidere road opposite the field as an example.

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#983393 - 13th Sep 2015 9:20pm Re: New Brighton prom road [Re: Near_Oval]
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Originally Posted By: Near_Oval
Some recent resurfacing has actually gone around parked cars look at belvidere road opposite the field as an example.

I go along there and back on my daily commute to work on a bicycle and it does look like a bunch of clowns did it, it looks horrific.

Then again, it was quite quick for council standards so thats probably why its crap

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