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Looks like we are not good enough to be allowed the Human Rights Act here, there will no doubt be challenges through Strasbourg should the Tories try to change any of the fundamental rights of the act, the manipulation of our population (wow I should be a poet)has begun, we are now being told what the government will allow us to have, which is less than the rest of Europe.

Isn't this a good thing? I know I have said many times wish they'd get rid of human rights act! On paper sounds great but has been used so many times wrongly costing us millions and in my opinion disgracefully. everybody no matter what they've done pleading human rights!

Quite agree in some respects Cools, human rights given to the likes of. murderers and people that offend against children. They afford their victims no human rights so should be served the same treatment.

Casper, even though it was another of Blair's babies, Labour want to get rid of it as much as anybody.

When Europe have power to over ride the Supreme Court in our own land and the following link shows how it can work against us, like Cools and Dilly, I would have thought it a good thing too. With the onset of this country being filled with criminal activity from foreign people of foreign countries, do we really want the same situation as we had with Aba Qatada ?

They will have a Bill for protecting 'Human Rights In the UK'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Act-JAMES-SLACK-offers-15-reasons.html

Good morning granny, a good sensible response as ever, however we have to look at the long game, which part of the act do you think the government would wish to amend or remove? on paper it looks fair and acceptable as cools has said, so should we remove or amend the right to a family life, this seems to be the one used to save people from deportation, or should we remove article 11 freedom of assembly, which will in effect stop any meetings or demonstrations against an imposition or unjust government action ? lets be very careful that we don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, by the way I did vote Labour, by my estimation the best of a bad bunch, but I think we have a lot to fear from a right wing Tory party, they have some very nasty and vindictive people in their government and if given free reign by DC it will end in tears for millions of ordinary people.

Morning Casper. Do our brains ever get any rest?

What you say is correct, various distinctions to be taken into account, and we won't know what is proposed until it is proposed and we can see the new Bill.

I see that this morning, they are about to propose EU immigration quotas. Also .... quote

" The European Commission's migration policy, to be announced on Wednesday, will also propose organising legal means for migrants to come to Europe so they do not turn to traffickers".

That would surely be a better way to go, as each and every bad situation unravels as a result of another situation gone wrong. Never ending, in the midst of a population explosion.

All things seem to be one big bundle of knotted knitting wool and if reincarnation is on the cards, I hope we are given a choice. I would rather not end up in the slammer, but I don't want to come back either. Could Strasbourg sort that one ? Oh yes, could end up as body parts!

Another fine mess as Stan and Olly would say, but I honestly fear for the future of our country, are we destined to end up like the USA, with homeless communities and people living out of shopping trollies, the sick and disabled denied care because they cant afford insurance, and gangs roaming the streets because of the lack of policing, fire services cut to the bone, I sincerely hope this is not the route we are taking for the sake of a strong economy.

Voting, is a process which leads to many other things, and some things have to be tackled by all political party. Amnesty International constantly criticise everything that any party tries to resolve, but never put forward a sensible solution.

Thinking about these migrants from Libya, squashed onto boats like sardines, children and all , they don't appear to arrive with smelly bums or wet pants do they ?
Maybe they haven't been at sea for as long as we are meant to believe. We can't always trust the media to give an accurate picture can we ?

More today being trafficked to Thailand.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-32686328

...and without a strong economy, your thoughts Casper, are precisely where we could end up. Lack of strong economy means gay abandon by all, then the anarchists could have their way.

How strange! As stated above, everyone abandons a sinking ship, Casper.

Lord Sugar announces he has quit the Labour Party !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32692668

The Labour party needs people to leave it, time and time again they've been told they have turned into a right wing party, people voting with their feet might eventually get through to them.

Milliband might have spouted some left wing things but he is too much a clone of Blair for most people's to believe him.

They need a leader with real experience of life, not college kids that have spent their life in politics or finance.

I'm saddened to hear that Stuart Kelly, councillor for Oxton lost to Labour, no doubt as some deluded "punishment" for Clegg siding with the Tories in the coalition.

Doughty, you have some very big shoes to fill. Stuart Kelly worked tirelessly for the area and kept people updated with regular newsletters.

I agree, I'm not a fan of lib-dems but Stuart is a bloomin good intelligent councillor/politician, a few more of his ilk and we would have a much better council.

Don't entirely agree with your "deluded punishment" statement, the lib-dems chose to put the tories in power in 2010, they could have chosen labour instead or left it as a hung parliament in which they would have had more control than they did as a coalition.

If (in 2010) both labour and tories refused to form a government because they would have been minorities, surely the lib-dems could have threatened to form a minority government and been in even more control - or did they bottle it?

I don't know what's next for the Labour party
Concentration on winning more votes in southern England and losing votes possibly in the North where seats have been taken for granted as was in Scotland.
It says something about the rise of Ukip in England, surely a lot of their manifesto struck a chord with quite a few voters which Labour could have taken over as some of their manifesto.
Although I didn't vote Ukip I do believe they have shaken up the complacency of the Cons and Labour mainly by firstly introducing immigration as a talking point which has led to a referendum on EU

Labour lost because they were TOO left leaning. People just want a steady job and to keep their houses. The left just hate people having money and they try to bring everyone else down.