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" Mike Creedon, currently the Chief Constable of Derbyshire Constabulary, claimed that in 1989, whilst he was serving as a Detective Sergeant, senior police chiefs severely limited his enquiries into paedophilia allegations against Janner, despite 'credible evidence' that warranted further investigation."

That was before Frank Beck's trial (1991) during which the accusation against Janus became public. Janus was interviewed in 1991, 2002 and 2006, the 2002 documents weren't passed to the CPS.

In 2013 he was investigated but not interviewed though the evidence file was sent to the CPS.

Well, his family have said he's entirely innocent of any wrongdoing, so I suppose that's it then !!

And my kids used to tell their friends that i was 8 foot tall and farted flames so it must be true......

My take on it is that it is at best rather silly and pointless, and at worst, a way of members helping each other out, often to the disadvantage of others.

The influence they wield is quite huge and insinuates itself in all kinds of nooks and crannies. Career promotions, getting off with charges, fiddling the books, self aggrandisement etc etc. All sly nods and winks in the form of hand signals and secret phrases and answers is how they recognise each other and they act accordingly from then on. That's always been my opinion of them and I've seen nothing different even though they now protest that they've cleaned their act up, it's a smoke screen.

I wonder how Masonary sits with Common Purpose that seems to be coming to the for and out of the shadows.

And he's been let off yet again, his crimes will be trialled, but Janner himself won't be.

Surely there is a limit to how many times the establishment can close ranks and cover up very public cases like these.

Its blatantly obvious that perjury has been committed and where are the trials for these?

What a ridiculous system. Is it likely that the evidence will be released into the public forum, or behind closed doors and kept in secret file number 666 ?

Stinks !

He's fireproof and so are the others who were up to their shennanigans with him. It's the poor lads I feel sorry for. Turns out that someone I knew was involved in something similar, he's doing 13 years now but some other cases have come to light which he didn't own up to so he's being done again. Makes me sick thinking of it and I've got to admit that there were no outward signs of what he was doing. It's even worse when you know some of the victims as well. How they exert the influence they do I don't know. It's a pretty sick world we're living in.

There's another who would appear to be 'fireproof' too.

33 Degree Freemason, Tony Blair.
The Chilcot inquiry that began in 2009, has yet again been held up. Not expected until next year now, after the panic that it could have been released before the election.
Maybe they are having a race to see who drops dead first. Then it won't happen at all.

Lord Janner has failed to turn up to court this morning, after the ruling of the High Court judge on Wednesday. Anybody else would now be under arrest and put behind bars.
There has to be something not nice for his family and protectors to be surrounding and assisting him this way. Innocents usually like to clear their name.

More fiddling behind the curtains.

Also noticed he is a member of the Magic Circle. Interesting to know how many more are part of this or another secret organisation.

A cynic might be led to believe that they (Jenner, Heath, Saville etc.) join the Free Masons in order to be protected should any of their perverted activities become known.

Or the converse - once in the Free Masons they believed they were bullet proof.

If they ever get Blair to the Hague, I think that will trigger many other exposures.

There is a webpage with a lot about Blair and Jenner. Don't now if it's true or conspiracy , who would ? So I don't think I could put it linked here. It mentions that in 1997, Blair made Jenner a member of the House of Lords.

Quote: As a member of the House of Lords, who are appointed essentially by the Sovereign on the recommendation of the Prime Minister rather than voted in as are the members of the House of Commons, Janner cannot be removed from office by the people.1 A "privilege" enjoyed by both Houses is that of freedom from arrest, although it is not total any longer..

So when the first allegations were made, possibly he was still protected under 'the privilege' .

The House of Lords were only privileged from arrest for a civil offence, not criminal offence.

They also had the privilege to be tried by peers not judge and jury but that was abolished in 1948, long before he was a Lord.