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RUDEBOX #922345 19th Jan 2015 12:42am
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millionaire Russell brand talks utter rubbish

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The prog last week bbc 2 "the super rich and us " explained it in detail. Its been 40 years in the making...


Excellent program. Exposed the evil of capitalism and how the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. The media should be highlighting this kind of philosophy, but of course it wont.


Of course it won't.
The media feeds us as directed; as a country, our progress is manipulated; internal controls of Government and opposition are being overridden, whilst they fumble in the dark for another 'fantastic' new strategy or policy for the hardworking; and our (joe public's) thought process, is being squeezed into a narrative structure. As changes take effect, we silently slip into a haze of amnesia ,forgetting how tasty the best bits used to be.
......what is the long term alternative to Capitalism ? Surely, economic democracy where workers control most enterprises would be a disaster and eventually lead to far worse. There would ALWAYS be the leaders who determine the outcome.


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casper #922369 19th Jan 2015 9:50am
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Letting workers have a say and a profit from their companies good fortune or a society helped by the no money "lets" system.
I do like russell brand but hes loaded/just wants the spotlight
and isnt saying anything new.
The "love police" charlie veitch has moaned on youtube about it for years too. The uk has merely become the usa on a smaller scale.
"Will full ignorance"as carlin called it.

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the site is getting like Radio Moanerside.


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casper #922399 19th Jan 2015 1:41pm
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I think its good that finally the public ,thro the govs massive incompetence and criminal behaviour ,are on mass now aware the gov your sacred mps are utter ... and serve themselves via city money,influence ,corruption,lobbyists of massive corps etc.
Most people are trash tv media following junk food eating bloated distracted robot head in an iphone consumers. Wrapped up in possessions and material consumption.
But some like me remember political and economic history.

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It's not whether you remember history but how you interpret it. Come up with a better way of working things out if you've got it sussed. Tell me which country's system is better? Just be grateful that you are in this country and not countless others.


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well said bandy


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Dear bandy coot, i have family members living in norway for last 13 years,like germany ,it survived quite well. Funny enough norway kept its own money. Its highly taxed but runs well,services work etc
Canadas the same. Its survived.
The systems so bent here you can get a hung parliament and still get in. People do forget no ones got a majority in 14 years.
Big decisions like immigration 2004,the war 2003,de regulating banks ,public sector cuts etc etc etc are all done without public consent yet destroy their lives/jobs.
By slashing everything all you get is lack of spending,lack of investment ,lack of tax coming in so as in the past with a conservative gov it cuts its own throat...
Go on youtube and watch george carlins "american dream" speech....it was ten years ago but it mirrors the uk now.hes talkin bout usa but its us in the future.
And he was just a comedian !!

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I'm inclined to believe that Denmark has it sorted.

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That's all very well Sven but have you seen the price of a pint in Norway? No way I say. Oh, and I've been there, a long time ago, but I've been there.
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Its not as expensive as cannes or monaco ive been to. The point is it works although its pricey.the jobs are there and the infra structure ,its minus 15 and it doesnt grind to a halt.
One of the main probs with the uk is we pay dearly but get naff quality back. Were a country of talk waffle debate but no action. Were weak and over tolerant so we get abused.
Ive been around a bit in this world and its bad elsewhere but also run well if done right.
Look at the media banging on about isis all the time. We created them.we replaced one evil for another. Think sadam would allow a sunni uprising if still in power? No way.
Usa students where recently asked "whose the biggest threat to world peace? Usa or isis?"
They rightly said usa.
Human race cherry picks morality when it wants.
this week youll see charles and cameron shakin hands with saudi officials,a country be heading people every week under "law" yet were so shocked at media fuelled biased against "terrorists"
no one cares or remembers the 100,000 plus who got bombed by us in 2003. But...
were the "heroes" tho hey !?
The weapons isis use cant be traced to usa/russian gun dealers in the 80s.
Everything is connected but society choose or want to forget.
look at the savagery of the british colony wars against any dissent from the black population etc etc.
So if i had to pay alot for a pint to have a well run competent efficient lots of employment no war like pleasant society ,id pay it.
its a utopia but we live in a dystopia .
i like the point about denmark ,its banned halal too. Great. A country with balls to face up to a meaningless religion that causes great animal suffering.


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Originally Posted by casper
Yes they do Chris, but not to the extent and the lengths the Tories have gone to on this one, every blip on the screen, oh it was the fault of the last government, they are doing a damn fine job now of protecting their paedo mates, the perpetrators will almost certainly remain protected,or the few who have died will take the blame,certainly one very high profile Tory known to all but cant be named in the house because of Parlimentry privilage, I feel ashamed that we harbour those of all parties who molest children yet are protected to save embarrasment to their respective parties.



And so it came to pass,gone to the grave with lots of unanswered question yes

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To be honest Sven, reading through your post I think yourself, along with everyone else, cherry picks what they want to take on board. I'm no different. I'd rather believe a little bit of good and carry on because nothing I do or say will make a blind bit of difference and I'm not going to give myself stomach ulcers thinking too much about it. Generally I'm happy with my lot, and I've been through some shoit believe me, so therefore I just get on with it. Even the crap I spout on here depends on what mood I'm in. I do feel sorry for the future generations of our indigenous population though. Our country has gone.
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Which political party has used force and threats of force and the use of the armed forces to put down strikes or civil disobedience? which government gave a home to a deposed despot guilty of murdering his own people? are these the actions of a reasonable government with the best interests of its own people at heart?

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Er, the Russian Communist Party?


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