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Bullox!!! You not heard of Brighthouse or Cash Converters??

They where flogging them in asda, £130 for a 42"Polaroid, at Christmas.

Well, it's all going to get interesting in the next couple of months. I don't believe any of the parties know how to muster up votes any longer, without telling lies. Of course, they have become increasingly aware that the British public have become quite knowledgeable about their telling of lies and fabricated stories about each other. Blame game, lies and opinion polls don't seem to mix any longer.
In the misery of not having the ability to believe any one of them, for myself there will be a chart and each political party will have a fail or win tick box. Eventually, the ticks will be counted and the winner will get my vote, that is because I feel we should all vote, no matter what. They cannot be allowed to take that away from us.
The whole process is likely to become very interesting or extremely boring.
Place your bets..

Anyone with an ounce of sense could see a recession coming, way back when it was called the "downturn" by the BBC.

Gordon Brown wrongly assumed that we could spend our way out of it by reducing VAT to 15%.

Even some of the more moderate Tories are begining to lose faith as they can see the damage being done, the Libdems are getting ready to jump ship in case the Tories lack a majority, the far right is growing stronger in Germany, will we hear the tramp of the jackboot again soon? extremism is taking a grip, a coalition of UKIP and the Tories would certainly push us to the far right.

What agenda has Cameron got as he will not have a t.v. debate unless the Green party are involved?

If you procure household items from Brighthouse and complain of not having enough money and being affected by the 'recession' then you are a mug.

The problem with today's society is that people see things such as Sky TV as a necessity and when paying for it gets tough, they plead poverty.

Hard to see much of a future for Torys as things stand. This party hasn't won a general election for 22 years and isn't looking especially likely to win the next one.

As I predicted in 2010 they have inflicted further damage on themselves by forming their unhappy alliance with the discredited Lib Dems and made only modest progress towards balancing the budget, let alone cutting the actual size of the state.

They make a series of impotent noises about Europe and immigration but fail to deliver anything.

Their biggest cultural/social "achievement" seems to be gay marriage. Hardly likely to win back the Tory faithful but probably not enough to convince many Lib Dems that they're no longer the nasty party.

Their modest success (or rather avoidance of abject failure) in keeping the union together is tempered by the fact that they don't have a clue what they should now do with it, or indeed with England, where people do actually still vote for them.

And it isn't even clear, as they begin setting out their stall for the next election, that any of these things are even important to the Tories. They don't have any ideology, any principles, any vision or anything at all really besides being slightly less incompetent than Labour on economic management.

Despite a strong record on the economy and a fairly sympathetic hearing on the BBC Cameron looks on course to lose quite heavily against a Labour leader who is a bit of a laughing stock.

I know ideology is not fashionable at the moment and doesn't in itself win elections. What it does do though is gel a party together around some guiding principles so that people actually know what they're getting beyond the dream sheet of a typical manifesto and the schmoozing of a media friendly leader. The Conservative Party badly needs this.

What the actual ideology should be is not all that clear. It is a very broad grouping but at the simplest level the split between the Thatcherite radicals and the old corporatist/paternalist Torues is the most obvious split with no obvious remedy.

It's all a waste of time and none of it will really affect me in anyway so I don't know why I bother.

Best post on here for years. Well said HansG.

Food For Thought! It must be labours turn again.I wish we could get away from this pendulum of a swing to Labour and back again, when we forget, the previous Government shafted us in much the same way as whoever is the outgoing administration for the wealthy.
Although universally regarded as a man of intellectual brilliance and personal warmth and decency. Michael Foot the last true Socialist Labour leader led his party to the worst electoral defeat in modern times.

HansG......... Not bad for a 'copy and paste' from AJS

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1454698&mid=0&nmt=Tories+the+future+(part1)

Impressed to the point of confusion.12,059 to go

Well spotted, granny. I wish people would credit sources.

... and you thought "The Lady Detective" was a series on the TV. She's for real and not much escapes her beady eyes! We have a smart cookie in our midst. Beware!

Read it and thought it very thought provoking.

I'll take credit for the opening lines thanks.

Flying visit- my point re. Brighthouse/ Cash -Converters may have been mis-interpreted.

These companies in my opinion are Vultures- I hate them all.

True- there are people who like to 'keep up with the Jones'live beyond their means but it these ...-bags, these vultures who 'allow' them the capacity to do so.

With saying that 'poor people bashers' tend to assume that they have bought their 42" widescreen tele- outright.