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The UK will work closely with French authorities following the Paris terror attack, Downing Street has said. The PM's spokesman said David Cameron was being regularly updated and would receive a full security briefing on Wednesday evening. Mr Cameron condemned the "barbaric" shootings at the offices of Charlie Hebdo magazine, in which at least 12 people were killed. The Queen has offered "sincere condolences" to victims and families. Speaking at a press conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Downing Street, Mr Cameron said the two leaders had been briefed by MI5 and MI6 on the attack. Home Secretary Theresa May will chair a meeting of the emergency Cobra committee on Thursday. The UK and German leaders spoke to French President Francois Hollande by phone and offered whatever assistance was needed. Prime Minister's Questions opened with statements about the killings, with Mr Cameron and Labour leader Ed Miliband vowing to defend democracy and press freedom. Read More : Click Me
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What a cowardly despicable act! Hope they find them.i get very depressed over the way the worlds going!
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What a cowardly despicable act! Hope they find them.i get very depressed over the way the worlds going! Feel the same Cools.. but I thought it was stated earlier that they have been found. One wonders what solution the French and others will try to adopt now and if it will work.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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a comment I copied from a few people ranting at each other. Which may help us to be balanced in our condemnation (or maybe not) Don't agree with it all
Who started WW1? Not the muslims! Who started WW2? Not the muslims! Who murdered 6 million European jews? Not the muslims! Who murdered 20 million aborigines? Not the muslims! Who nuked Horoshima and Nagasaki? Not the muslims! Who murdered millions of North American Indians and stole their land? Not the muslims! Who murdered 50 million South American Indians? Not the muslims! Who murdered and crippled a million Indians in Bhopal via 1984 Union Carbide leak? Not the muslims! Who took 180 million Africans as slaves, of whom 88% died and their bodies were thrown into the Atlantic ocean? Not the muslims!
All of these atrocities were committed by white caucasians/christians. In fact, the most heinous brutalities throughout history have always been perpetrated by christians and jews. So spare me your delusions of grandeur and define terrorism properly. If a non-muslim does it, then it is justified as 'collateral damage' and 'self defence' but if a muslim is even suspected (or falsely accused) of terrorism, then all muslims are immediately labelled as terrorists and tortured by racist bigots and war mongers like yourself. So first remove the racist double standard and then come to the point.
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Whoever wrote that surely doesn't condemn these atrocious acts that are happening now. We've hopefully moved on since the dark ages, but they obviously haven't and although certain groups would wish to make all this out to be a 'religious war', comments like that add fuel to any fire. So they are guilty too of agitating a situation. Many muslim and other faith groups, Jewish etc. have been born in France, and UK , but many have come to Europe with a view to something better than what they had. If it's not what they expect, they are free to leave but I do not see why we should be bending over backwards to accommodate , when we are open to a constant barrage of criticism and change of our own identity as a country. Someone somewhere is trying inflame all of this now, and I also believe they will be successful, unless the antagonists shut up. We are trying as a world in the global arena to work together, but for this problem of now and the terror that is going on in the middle east, the Israeli hatred of the Palestinians , Syria and it's influx of ISIS, etc. is all causing untold misery to millions, so no body has the right to call other nations for their past atrocities at this moment in time. I wonder if we were faced with the dreadful sequence of events in this country, as they have in the middle east, what would we do ?
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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First and foremost we are all human beings,young children play together they know nothing of religion or the colour of someones skin they take as they find the person not his/her beliefs, the problem occurs when extremism poisons their minds, I do have concerns as granny says about people arriving here and demanding that we change our culture to accommodate them and their customs and beliefs,I do not understand a religion that calls for non believers to be executed or that those who dont conform fully should be punished, some of their imams say this not the case, but others interprit it differently, how can a religion be so ambiguous? why are they so eager to take offence? If christianity followed the same lines there would be bodies all over the place.
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Think it was the Mirror or another news article saying it was the worst atrocity in Europe for 50 years or something like that---conveniently forgot about (non muslim) Anders Brevik massacre of all those children.
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and The Munich massacre .An attack during the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich, West Germany, on eleven Israeli Olympic team members, who were taken hostage and eventually killed, along with a German police officer, by the Palestinian group Black September.
Hungerford Massacre 1987
Bosnia In a five-day orgy of slaughter at Srebrenica in July 1995, up to 8,000 Muslims were systematically exterminated in what was described at the U.N. war crimes tribunal as "the triumph of evil."
Dunblane Massacre 1996
Sometimes I think that these columnists are young graduates, and who have little knowledge about much other than their own birth date.
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Bloody hell ! Another one in Paris. Gunman holding hostages in Supermarket. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30740115
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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breaking news on RT- both charlie hebdo suspects dead.
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breaking news on RT- both charlie hebdo suspects dead. lets hope they died in pain.
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I've been following this all afternoon, ...They say we are next,lets hope that with all our CCTV surveillance and good Policing put a stop to all this "nonsense" before it kicks off again here.
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There's another one just coming through at a jewellery shop in southern France !!!
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All this because they've been mocked.
I don't understand how people have a right to mock the jihads or whatever they're called yet cannot have freedom of speech on other subjects?
It doesn't make sense?
So in the news they've said they will carry on mocking the jihads, isn't that provoking the situation worse?
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For once Ste I actually have similar views We are not allowed to mock so many things now, and quite rightly, but it would appear to be ok to mock Mohammed ,who in Islam is held in great esteem. It is a great insult to Islamists to have that happen. So yes, why would anyone wish to continue with this so called 'freedom of speech'? France of course has a very strong anti-Semitic ,and anti-muslim sentiment, to the point that thousands of Jews are leaving France, one of the largest Jewish populations in Europe. There are things going on that we know little of. A friend of mine who is Jewish used to send emails (these round robin type things) that are extremely disrespectful to the Muslims in general trying to build up a hate factor. So they must be circulated all over the world. It makes me quite angry, so he doesn't anymore. With that, if we did the same sending anti-Semitic stuff, we would be in big trouble. Therefore why, as you say, is there a section of people publicly allowed to display such disrespectful and taunting material?
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