Saw some on Ebay Gibbo, which were refurbished and around £50 ,they might have been the ones you're referring to, but only a guestimate of how much toner etc was left. They said 90% but who would know! If it went wrong, Id be wishing I had a proper shop to march back to with it, hence Currys. I like to keep eveything simple as poss these days , me and stress dont get on!Still havent unpacked it yet , so cant comment on whether Im pleased with it or not, but Im sure I will be. Not so much the printer putting me off now, as the thought of having no excuse not to do the tax forms once I have the ability to print them off.