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Developer wants to build Bebington Green Belt #841070
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Thought some of you might want to have a look at this and (if you agree with me) object:

http://www.wirral.gov.uk/planning/D...t.PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=92106

I'm in agreement that we need more houses but with all of the empty plots and derelict buildings in Wirral there is no justification for building on green belt other than greed - profit is much better there as there's no previous infrastructure to deal with and the only residents who object are the wildlife!

If you're not happy like me, then please go to the applicaiton and fill in an objection on the consultation page - it's currently running at 25:3 against!

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Done.

Greenbelt is greenbelt. East Wirral has no shortage of empty and derelict plots within its urban areas and around the docklands. These should be developed (CPO'd if need be) first.


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Click onto documents and then 5th item down . Quite a report on wildlife in the vacinity.
Hope I have that right!



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Re: Developer wants to build Bebington Green Belt [Re: AR_One] #841090
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Not exactly the "affordable housing" for which there is the greatest need, either - the proposal is for 10 four bedroomed detatched houses, which are not going to be cheap in Higher Beb.

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The last new houses built in the area were "Edward Manton Close" on the old VW garage site and they're definitely not affordable!

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/home-values/higher-bebington/edward-manton-close/

Yes Granny the site backs onto Storeton woods so there's going to be lots of wildlife. I'd add sparrow hawks, badgers, foxes, hedgehogs and hares to the list of animals that I've seen in the vicinity

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This development was mentioned in the last edition of the Friends of Storeton Woods newsletter. I think this is totally unsuitable development. I've objected.
Here's a view of this unspoilt corner.
http://binged.it/1c8V8eS


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It would appear PP has already been granted for 3 of the 10 houses, to be built where the stable block currently stands (the "L" shaped building on chriskay's link). Which is a shame, when on a local horsey forum there are a number of posts from people wanting (and struggling to find) stabling with a bit of land to either rent or buy. It'd be perfect for anyone with horses too, with the nearby permissive access through Storeton Woods.

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Originally Posted by AR_One
The last new houses built in the area were "Edward Manton Close" on the old VW garage site and they're definitely not affordable!

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/home-values/higher-bebington/edward-manton-close/


shocked Didn't know they were that expensive, no wonder they want to build even more on the Marsh Lane land.

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Originally Posted by Cobby
It would appear PP has already been granted for 3 of the 10 houses, to be built where the stable block currently stands (the "L" shaped building on chriskay's link). Which is a shame, when on a local horsey forum there are a number of posts from people wanting (and struggling to find) stabling with a bit of land to either rent or buy. It'd be perfect for anyone with horses too, with the nearby permissive access through Storeton Woods.


Actually, as I read it, planning permission has been granted for the conversion of the stable block into three dwellings. This new application would supercede that permission. A main difference is that conversion of the stable block (without much alteration to the exterior) is on a completely scale from the new proposal.
Although I have no interest in horses, your point about that aspect is a good one, and the permissive bridle path through the woods is a good alternative to riding along Mount Rd.
Anyway, although I don't hold out much hope, I hope the application gets thrown out.


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Re: Developer wants to build Bebington Green Belt [Re: AR_One] #841159
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I have objected and agree that there should never be permanent building of any sort on our green belt. I remember my parents fighting for the green belt and am happy to follow their example.

Another point is that the main road is a danger at any time of the day due to the amount and type of traffic and no possibility of road widening.

Build on all the vacant plots first and replace those buildings past their sell-by date.

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Another point. How many shop units are standing vacant now? I see them all over the place - often looking tatty as hell.

This many shops were built for another age. Internet shopping and supermarkets aren't going away, so it really would be best to demolish/repurpose them into usable homes. Should make a dent into the housing crisis.

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Now 30 against to three for.

My concerns are that its going to cause increased congestion on an already busy main road running from the motorway.

You only have to see the queues of cars pulling out of the side roads (and sticking half the bonnet out into the road).

Its not a "rat run" either because Birkenhead is clearly signposted from that motorway junction.

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Originally Posted by Gibbo

You only have to see the queues of cars pulling out of the side roads (and sticking half the bonnet out into the road).


At least they've realised that risk and have incorporated a decent splay at the entrance.
I really hope this gets the thumbs-down, simply because it will destroy one of my childhood haunts.


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Originally Posted by chriskay
Originally Posted by Gibbo

You only have to see the queues of cars pulling out of the side roads (and sticking half the bonnet out into the road).


At least they've realised that risk and have incorporated a decent splay at the entrance.
I really hope this gets the thumbs-down, simply because it will destroy one of my childhood haunts.


It will also give the green light to attempts to build on the fields on the same side of Mount Road - between there and Lever Causeway, between Lever Causeway and Stanley av and the one that I'm most worried about is Hancock's wood which is the second part of Storeton woods (between Rest hill and Red Hill road). Although it's treated as part of the woods, it's actually owned by the Lever family trust who may want to sell it to realise funds at any time and it would be prime development land. The Friends of the woods tried to buy it a few years ago but the trust didn't want to sell frown


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storeton

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We all know the council will probably approve this, regardless of widlife etc. As long as no councillors object after all its typical "as long as its not in my back garden etc"

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