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There was a John Bethell on it according to this site

http://www.ellisisland.org/shipping/FormatTripPass.asp?sship=Berengaria&BN=P00338-8

Click on his name on the list. He was 24 years old when the ship arrived in New York on 2nd November 1923. That date and age of him ties in with what Bethell says.

Great information Bethell, thank you very much smile

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Found it, 1930

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Great stuff Bert1 smile

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Perhaps your horse yard is near, at the time of his death in Clatterbridge Hospital 1965, he lived in Manor Rd, Hoylake.


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Yes my horse yard is very near there, on Park road, Meols.

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Just seen the updates, it looks like you have your man x_plore!!!

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I do indeed, thank you very much Bethell, I am most grateful.

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I can tell you that Larry had no children and his wife, who he met on the high seas, was American and died over 30 years ago. The nearest living relative is my father who is his nephew who knows far more about Larry than I do. If you would like to speak to him just let me know.

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His wife's name was Rose Selina Bethell, don't know her maiden name, some more digging and below may be the ship he was sunk on.

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You are right Bert, Auntie Rose used to babysit me when I was a child

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Thanks Tim, think I have all the history I need now, you where a great help, thank you.

And Bert1, wow, you don't half know your history smile

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If you or your dad want to see it let me know

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I will ask my dad and get back to you.

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Thanks Tim, think I have all the history I need now, you where a great help, thank you.

And Bert1, wow, you don't half know your history smile


...I reckon bert should set himself up as a private detective!


Nice one, bert. sherlock

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Awesome thread and great news on getting to the bottom of the mystery.

Well done everyone clap


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