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OK, so which party would you lot choose to run the government (from the existing party selections)?
As I see it they are all the same cookie-cutter clones, a million and one promises, one delivered. They are all good old Eaton/Cambridge/Oxford boys who claim to represent and understand a people/culture/lifestyle/hardship that they have never known.
Voting is to show your support of a particular party, as such I support none of them, next vote I will just be crossing them all out and putting 'NO CONFIDENCE', because that is how I feel about all of them.
They all make the same lies, just under different banners.
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Why not try a proper coalition (combining their think-tanks)for 5 years (just like during the war 1940s) of all the main parties to try to get us out of our troubles with free voting by mps and not having to toe the party line and publish who voted for or against any motion.
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Why not try a proper coalition (combining their think-tanks)for 5 years (just like during the war 1940s) of all the main parties to try to get us out of our troubles with free voting by mps and not having to toe the party line and publish who voted for or against any motion.
Government by the people for all the people Yeah, I have thought for a long time that something like this might work better than the system presently set in place. While I do agree with many of the previously mentioned opinions of our MP's there are policies within each of the three main parties that I support and equally, policies that I oppose. A three party coalition could be the answer.
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OK, so which party would you lot choose to run the government (from the existing party selections)?
As I see it they are all the same cookie-cutter clones, a million and one promises, one delivered. They are all good old Eaton/Cambridge/Oxford boys who claim to represent and understand a people/culture/lifestyle/hardship that they have never known.
Voting is to show your support of a particular party, as such I support none of them, next vote I will just be crossing them all out and putting 'NO CONFIDENCE', because that is how I feel about all of them.
They all make the same lies, just under different banners. For once Rhoobarb, I agree with you. All up the creek without a paddle. I actually don't think Labour want to win the next election, they really won't know how to deal with all things, if the country is still in much the same predicament as it is now. We have all bluff from all sides. The unfortunate side is, that they all must think, that we are all no brainers. I always feel we should vote, before a vote is taken away from us, but really, like many others, I wonder, what is the point?
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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The thing is people, as a country weve gone down the toilet over the last esp 15 years....heres why 1/we think things will change whatever party we vote in, were only just realising they've been bumming us over for years and theyre still getting away with it. the uk citizens never think about the government actually have NO MONEY its ours and all they do is rape it off us "legally " all through your life and in death even. 2/the uk is the perfect host to parasite money/life style off whether youre from here or not....free loaders paradise !!! Look to your mps and gov making that easy, people will always abuse a system set up to be easily abused. 3/we obsess over meaningless religions and material possessions / untalented "rich" glamour TV knob heads....follow like sheep, meaningless vacuous sycophants and their lives 4/ we believe selling something is all we have, we make nothing, its all service industry now....betting/coffee/goods/cheap food/Tesco/buying old gold/loans on your car, home, wages the list goes on..... 5/we TALK about doing things/sorting things out, change, restructure, inquiries, endless debate (my personal hate) BUT NOTHING CHANGES. 6/ we still cant look after our old...protect our children. 7/you can run over and kill a child, run away, not have even a licence, do two mins in prison and stay here yet if you rob a bank or shoot a copper they'll hunt you down like a dog. if youre burgled and do the ... bag in, its you in the dock. criminals love the uk its easy street for them....they have more rights. We pander to Europe too much, whose fault....MPS ! 8/We believe what we see on constant fed junk tv and reading news papers, to think we skitted at the yanks in the 80s. 9/We allow our "leaders" to chuck vast amounts into things we DONT want and when it goes pear shaped.....no ones responsible and they walk away. 10/Everyones fat now and like consuming robot sheep just like the yanks. unaware of what human and animal cruelty/ exploitation goes with their choices and consumption .Theyre not bothered as long as their mouths are full. 11/If youre un accountable or traceable no job/car/home you can pretty do what you like....in ref to crime and theres lots of support out there but not for people who keep their nose clean. 12/I don't mind anyone coming here as long as they work but we like to reward people here for having lots of kids.....cant afford them? don't have them....we don't want to pay 13/we go on about being animal lovers but animals aren't only cute dogs& cats....our most exploited and badly treated (foxes/horses/pigs/dairy cows) their suffering is still hidden and remote from view. were happy to make money off them but once its hassle-cost, our answer....kill them. Humane slaughter is an oxymoron. 14/even though our scumbag mps go on about tax avoidance we continue to employ ex HMRC staff as advisors.....to avoid tax !! London is a great tax haven for companies....true irony. 15/MPS and our blessed GOV still go on about issues we don't care about and avoid issues we do. The ultimate 'poachers turned game keepers'... 14/Our once diverse original cities have no soul now just the same shops/chavs/closed down empty holes/lack of jobs/big supermarkets/generic housing estates flats...no originality or soul to them. The tills are ringing but outside a small area its a sh**hole with loads of crime and people on the dole. Ill think of some more later....... the list of whats good about modern uk is very very small....ha
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after a nice rest....I thought of a few more 1/our "regulators" are completely weak and no power over what they over see, theyre just fronts and often have a financial connection to who they regulate....gas energy water phone bills banks insurance mobile networks the police tax avoidance scumbags phoning you up (TPS is a waste of time)the press, trains and even flights (CAA) the list is massive !!!! 2/we continue as a country to under employ via part timers in all services to undermine staffing levels to save money....the army....the TA the police...PCSO and so on... 3/like an insidious work virus in everything....the gov while taking backhanders from said companies employ "contracts" with the likes of G4S SERCO CAPITA etc etc 4/parasite temporary "companies" offer " courses" to the unemployed to get them back to work but in fact its a front with no work really there but more dole after 3 months but they make their profit....the worst kind 5/people are like sheep/all look the same like the same things in the uk.....theyre either black traky wearing chavs with their kids names on their neck with a pram sucking on a pasty while shouting at their phones or white audi or 4x4 driving meatheads with bald heads and a beer gut red hair ! fat consumers, obsessed with shiny things and money, fake tv with fake people ITS ALL ABOUT HOW IT LOOKS funded by debt. 6/we still haven't worked out that mps are ... simple....completely useless incompetent self serving hypocrites who only give a toss about anything unless theres something in it for them...notice how most end up in tv jobs so they can be paid to be sycophants
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Svenlock68, well said. And, well done for taking the time and making the effort to put your thoughts and opinions down in writing on this forum. I agree with 99% of what you have said. Brilliant!!
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yup. I 'get' svenlock68 too.
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Svenlock68 for Prime Minister.
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Me too, a lot of truth in what you say, maybe the question should have been which is the most obnoxious party that divides and takes the hopes and aspirations from the majority of us, I think that's easier to define. And a tripart coalition would be a good idea, but would never work because all the parties are to obsessed with their own importance and want to be the boss.
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4/ we believe selling something is all we have, we make nothing, its all service industry now....betting/coffee/goods/cheap food/Tesco/buying old gold/loans on your car, home, wages the list goes on..... Did you miss Top Gear the other week. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMb17Et6WwoAnd that's just motor industry focused, there's loads more in many other industries.
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Yes im a fan. Ive met Clarkson. We may make expensive cars but can we afford to buy em. Fact is 70 % of business is service here. Half gdp is welfare other banking. Look into rotational taxation and what it means. I dont buy or read papers don't have sky Don't believe our " leaders" The media love to dis tract us with immigration banks councils unemployment but the real corrupt ... are the government
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As usual today the self serving corrupt energy Mafia announced more raping of the public Even the gov moan but have they the power to control them--- no This happens so much in the uk , the powers been lost years ago. Its a weak weak country, a good doc to watch is "tower block of commons " to show mps as they are, or no tax please were british from the bbc. Bottom line politicians are under every scummy rock of an issue
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heres a few things I hate in only the uk why do WE pay ATM charges ,booking fees ,property management fees, and rip off leasehold fees or lease hold buy out costs ??? "money for nothing" I say people who run these "services" are parasites...
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