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Wench, granny can find you a job, im sure you must be able to push a button now and again , therefore your capable of work i think she invented ATOS

Personally im speechless at some of the people on here views, sheeeple !!!!

Wench, if you want to take it personally, then that is your choice.
My post realated to benefit scroungers and I assume you are not one. So please, don't constantly refer back to yourself everytime I make a post.
You obviously have many problems as you have mentioned on many occaasions, and I have not, repeat not, included you in any of my opinions.

There's many a person who has a bad back, a bad head, stress and various probems, which would not affect there ability to seek work. Some of the problem rise from the fact that they, who do stay at home for a long time, loose their confidence and the ability to see they have something to offer.

Having worked in the public sector for numerous years, I saw many a person who were fleecing the system, I was also involved a degree with people suffering severe disabilities, and therefore I know the difference.

Who are these 'people' you refer to? The extremely small number who work the system, are then highlighted by the media thus turning the non-scrounging population against all benefit claimants? The way you talk Frank, you would think your taxes paid for every single welfare pound that has been spent. Did I say that it was only the cash that made being on benefits no kind of life? No, I said being on benefit was survivable only and not 'quite well' at all!

Rambo, there are lots of benefit cheats, for whatever their reasons might be.
As I write, there is one person I know,who is very highly qualified, and as required, applies for jobs. The ones she applies for are often 30-40 miles away and if she gets to interview stage,she always finds something to kick off about in the interview,and walks out! Thus, knowing full well, she will not be offered the position.
It suits her not to be working, for a number of reasons.Financially,I have no idea how she manages but she does, and quite well. She can have her nights out, has a dog,runs a car and lives in a 3 bed detached house....so there must be more benefits for some, than others.

Funny how the ones on benefits seem on the defensive, AGAIN we do know wench that there are those like your self who have had ops and treatment and are in pain and who cant walk or move.
None of us have ant problem with that, its the ones who don't or don't want to work who haven't worked for years who can walk, talk, climb, enjoy days/nights out , still carry on their life, smoke drink, socialise , go on trips etc, on dole money.

People on employment support allowance alone cannot afford extras. People who get incapacity and dla(or whatever the current name is) mobility and carers allowance for their partners are the ones with spare cash.Only incapacity is means tested the rest the sky is the limit.There are households were both parents are on dla and they get carers allowance to care for each other.Throw in a couple of kids with syndromes real or imagined and you are into the luxury class.
Granny I suspect that your subject is mentally ill and thus qualifies for the full works.

I'm not taking anything personally, just giving you an example to *try* and get across that not ALL those on benefits are scroungers. If people would stop tarring ALL with the same brush, I wouldn't keep repeating myself. Oh, and it's not to every post you write. I can't give you examples apart from my own to answer your questions or statements as I don't know anyone elses personal situation, only my own

The question about the truth you seek was a genuine across the board question. I DO have major issues with those who treat it as a career and have never had/never intend to have a job and keep breeding, thus perpetuating the next generation of "never worked" and those who you see on these "scrounger" shows on BBC1 etc. The problem lies with not only the fact they can get away with it, but also the fact that it's all the likes of the Daily Fail and the BBC etc seem to focus on, thus making the "working people" and those with access to the outrage bus keys say things like "all people on benefits are scroungers" or "have big tv,s, latest phones(with internet), smokes, drinks, goes to bed at all hours, sits on pc all night, have chips on their shoulders thinking the state owns(sic)* them more".

*owes (possibly).

Granny, the over payment, by fraud, 2011/2012 was 0.7% of the total benefit bill, less than 1/100th! How is this lots? The one case you know of, why don't you shop her, this is the number; 0800 854 440. Are you in the interview with her? How do you know what she does in the interview?
Sue, who are these 'ones on benefit' who are on the defensive? Who are these people who can 'walk, talk, climb, enjoy days/nights out , still carry on their life, smoke drink, socialise , go on trips etc, on dole money' I haven't read anywhere on this thread from these people who have defended their lifestyle, I'm sure any benefit claimants who are reading this are just as fed up with their lack of money and prospects as anyone else who has tried to get by on the 'minimum the law says you need to live on' minus the mandatory council tax payment they now have to make and the 'bedroom tax' that some have to find. be grateful you have a job and stop making generalised, derogatory comments about a fictitious group of people who you don't know!

Wasn't aware I was tarring all with the same brush

I didn't mention your name in the post you have taken the snippet from Sue but, your post (quoted verbatim below) does say if you're on ANY kind of benefit, and differentiates between non workers (sic) and refers to such people as "they". Ergo, one would surmise from that that you are indeed tarring all with the same brush. That is the post to which I was referring. Also, by saying any kind of benefit, that also applies to people who work and claim any of the tax credits, any child related benefits (no idea what they're called) and pensions. Maybe that's not what you meant, but it's certainly what you typed. Sometimes the written word is easily misinterpreted due to lack of intonation etc. Hope that helps.



Stepping away from this now as I really don't think there's any point in me trying to discuss it (in general, not mentioning any names, just as a general discussion) as all I can do is give my own personal point of view, as opposed to sweeping generalisations. But I will, at the risk of annoying some, repeat myself one last time and say that I DO have a problem with those who have never/don't want to work and the ones who screw the system because not only is it unfair to those who DO work/want to work, it also gives those who are genuine a bad name.

This statistic is invalid: it has been quoted before on this site. It can only be based on detected fraud; the actual amount may be an order of magnitude larger. (And yes, I do know the literal meaning of "order of magnitude").

Not long back from Merseyside Peoples Assemby. Anybody familiar with this guy- Laurence Clarke?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Clark_(comedian)

He highlighted the sheeple mentality perfectly.

UK Welfare Spending.

Breakdown of benefits cost.

just to put the record straight , I'm on pension credit which is considered a benefit,I get a (free eye test,) not free glasses, and I don't get free holiday's