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Just the one Degree thanks- not in German ideaological bollocks. Goodnight.
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Housecraft is a good degree to have..helps one budget. 
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Well today in work just out of interest I asked someone what they thought about people on benefits. Their reply was, yeah fine with people getting benefits that really do need them. But there are those that milk the system for what they can get.
They said they knew someone like that,it was a fella who was signing on but working on the side.
So it does go on and no one can tell me any different. Firstly Suexxx, had this person been sensible, she should have reported the fella. If more people did, it might just leave more paid employment available for those who are on benefits. It seems strange to me that everyone is very protective about those who try to rip the system off. Surely those who are unemployed on Wiki must agree that benefit scroungers are not to be supported, because in the long term it affects the opinions of the population. Nobody here from the umemployed group of people, seem to be able to come out and speak the truth. So far as I am concerned with the disability issues, if one can answer a phone, use a computer, get on a bus,and write, they should at least be able to seek employment,there is a huge drive to help people with disabilities back into work (unless they are mental health issues, which are more difficult) No one is opposed to people who are genuinely unemployed as it's a dire situation to be in,but for some reason only the employed can seem to see how the scroungers mulitply.Maybe many of those have also been unemployed at some time, but because they were the genuine ones, it was a far better option to go out, find work and do something positive for their own mental well being, instead of sitting at home dwelling on their problems....which is soul destroying. The more benefit scroungers there are, the less those genuine benefit seekers are likely to receive. Thats exactly my thoughts.Granny.Its just a shame ones who are working there butts off get no help while others milk the system.
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I've been recording the Channel 4 programme "Benefits Britain 1949" and I've just watched episode 3 which was broadcast on August 26th. There was one unemployed fork lift driver who was desperately trying to find a job (good for him), a middle age woman who claimed to be unable to work owing to idiopathic musculoskeletal pain. When she was helped in the 1949 way, she found that she couldn't manage rubbish sorting but then discovered that she was capable of office work and quite liked it. The third specimen was a young man who refused to look for a job and expected the state to support him while he attempted to become a rapper!!! When he was confronted with the 1949 situation, in which he had all his benefits removed and was forced to go back to live with his parents, he eventually applied for a call centre job.
Maybe there are lessons to be learned.
p.s. "idiopathic" is a very useful medical word: it simply means, cause unknown.
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Its funny as well how many people now have these motorised wheel chairs. There so common place now, they are like cars. Im sure the drivers of these said wheel chairs are getting younger or is that me just getting older.
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I'm sure the drivers of these said wheel chairs are getting younger or is that me just getting older? Bit of both probably. At least they allow some of the clinically obese some mobility; can be a bit of an obstruction in the supermarket.
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Interesting news item on granda reports at the moment. About workers wages, how wages have been frozen and how workers in the region are less well off then they where before since the cuts came in.
someone e mailed in and said they would be better off on benefits.
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I was made redundant in 1997, and after a full time employment record of 42 years, I was awarded (dole) of £41.62/week!
Don't know what that equates to today, but I certainly could not live on it then.
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Interesting news item on granda reports at the moment. About workers wages, how wages have been frozen and how workers in the region are less well off then they where before since the cuts came in.
someone e mailed in and said they would be better off on benefits. Iwatched that was very interesting Suexx
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The problem with today's society is that for most of the people who are on benefits, they have no incentives to work as they are actually better off on benefits.
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The problem with today's society is that for most of the people who are on benefits, they have no incentives to work as they are actually better off on benefits. Exactly, thats what I've been saying all along.
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Oop's my above post should read £41.62/fortnight
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I remember in the 1960s you could leave one job and go straight in to another because there was so many companies about and because there was a smaller workforce they paid a reasonable wage to attract employees. (sadly all the major manufacturing firms have now disappeared and the various smaller firms that supplied various services to them).
If you were unemployed then folks tended to think you were a scrounger living off benefits because jobs were available.
Today in Wirral it is mostly service Industries where no goods are produced and a much larger potential workforce which then allows businesses to set the minimum terms of employment in the name of profits.
I truly detest those companies that make huge profits but pay next to nothing in taxes by evasion, loopholes and other means.
If you do business in a country you should pay taxes in that country.
As Napoleon said "Britain is a nation of shopkeepers"
Apologies for going a bit off topic.
I really should have started a new one about Taxes and companies and who are the investors etc) but like the media didn't want folks thinking too much about it (shush)
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The problem with today's society is that for most of the people who are on benefits, they have no incentives to work as they are actually better off on benefits. What absolute drivel! I have been on benefits and you most certainly can not live on them, you can survive, barely, but it's not what I would describe as living!
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It seems strange to me that everyone is very protective about those who try to rip the system off. Surely those who are unemployed on Wiki must agree that benefit scroungers are not to be supported, because in the long term it affects the opinions of the population. Nobody here from the umemployed group of people, seem to be able to come out and speak the truth.
So far as I am concerned with the disability issues, if one can answer a phone, use a computer, get on a bus,and write, they should at least be able to seek employment,there is a huge drive to help people with disabilities back into work (unless they are mental health issues, which are more difficult)
No one is opposed to people who are genuinely unemployed as it's a dire situation to be in,but for some reason only the employed can seem to see how the scroungers mulitply.Maybe many of those have also been unemployed at some time, but because they were the genuine ones, it was a far better option to go out, find work and do something positive for their own mental well being, instead of sitting at home dwelling on their problems....which is soul destroying. The more benefit scroungers there are, the less those genuine benefit seekers are likely to receive.
What "truth" is it you seek? As for the disabled working comment, I applied for a few jobs. Some I was overqualified for, one I was told that I didn't get it because I had a higher Law qualification than the Practice Manager so was seen as a threat as why else would I have only gone for a Legal Secretary's post, and the other I was told they weren't prepared to employ me as I needed too much time off and they would have to pay agency to cover my hours. This leaves me with a dilemma - am I honest about health issues, physio, injections, surgeries etc and not get the jobs or do I lie, get found out, lose my job and end up back at square one?
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