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Birkenhead is Wirral,and Wirral is not Liverpool and never will be.

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Originally Posted by softshoes
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Looks as if we will all be heading for the hills, Ponytail, if this should happen!! I'll go south to Wales, it's still free to walk the Dee. smile


Granny, can you walk on the Mersey too? I know we all could in days gone by!!


Yes,they did what a good memory you have, Snowshoes!

Can't walk on water yet but, practising hard.
Does anybody remember when they changed Wirral from Cheshire to Merseyside? It was almost WWIII.


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To Granny.
don t you mean softshoes?
Yes,they did what a good memory you have, Snowshoes!

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I differ in that I don't mind being described as a person from Merseyside. (I live that close to the River Mersey that I could probably tee off a golf ball from my drive and it would land in the Mersey-on a good day *cough* ahem* wink )

Cheshire-to me summons up visions of leafy, affluent suburbs-nothing like North Wirral!! Alderley-Edge, that type of place.

I love Wirral but I love Liverpool too (the central tourist 'city bit' with its Historic and Cultural Delights).

I believe though that we should remain 'seperate' from Liverpool. The poorer half of Wirral get a poor deal with regards to Expenditure etc so God knows how much worse it could be if North Wirral were competing with North Liverpool.

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Wirral doesn't need liverpool for investment: expansion of Levers, recent announcement of the investment in Birkenhead for the motor industry etc....

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Originally Posted by Candlyfloss
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don t you mean softshoes?
Yes,they did what a good memory you have, Snowshoes!


Miss floss.......inside joke grin

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i was born in liverpool and now live here after a few other places and both sides have great places and plus points, i love both side some of the most lovely people in the country live around merseyside. if they do merge wirral and liverpool they will finally have to get rid of the tax on the wirral (tunnel toll) as there cant be any justifacation for dividing a borough by a toll thats got to be a good thing for peoples pockets in this time

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I moved here because of its proximity to Liverpool, not to be part of it. And like others have said, when speaking to outsiders they automatically lump Wirral as part of Liverpool. Even my own family tell others that I live at or near Liverpool, much to my shame!

Liverpool has been tarred by a certain stereotype, and it will keep that for life. I can't say I know too many people from both sides of the water but there is a distinct difference in their mentalities.

Take a look at Liverpool Echo's website for example. I don't know many other city newspapers which have such a focused link to the local football teams in such a prominent place.

Don't get me wrong, I love Liverpool. It has a wonderful waterfront, great shopping, good rail transport, superb real ale pubs (and friendly characters who drink in them) and a vibrancy that puts my home town of Sheffield to shame.

But I like the fact we have a different postcode and a nice expanse of water to keep us apart from it.

I think the Visit Wirral website shows off the area brilliantly:

http://www.visitwirral.com/

But I think we need to make more of the technicality that we're actually an island (thanks to the Shropshire Union Canal), not a peninsula!

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i was born in 1947,in birkenhead.it says on my birth certificate birkenhead,CHESHIRE,not wirral i have never considered myself coming from the wirral,it was never mentioned in the old days.they even say the rovers are from the wirral,whe it was and still is,BIRKENHEAD,be proud to be birkonians as we always have been,ive never been a wirralian or whatever they call them.BIRKENHEAD LIVES.

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Wirral used to be part of wales,id sooner go back to Wales then be Liverpool...wirral is not part of Liverpool,we are totally separate

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When I first read this article I thought it was a great idea, because I have always felt that the although the River Mersey is a natural barrier between the Wirral and the rest of Merseyside it is artificial in that we are all basically the same people with the same problems no matter which side of the river we live on. Merging the two councils would on the face of it would make a great cost saving, maybe even enough to be able to make the tunnel free because you could not have a toll road separating the two halves of an integral area. If that were the case I would be in favour of the proposal to merge not just Birkenhead but the whole of Wirral with Liverpool. I think a more comprehensive name should be substituted for the new conurbation; my favourite for the moment is Liverpool Bay Area. This is my first reaction to the proposal on Seven Streets .com but I am sure there are many facets to the argument and I am looking forward to reading them. smile

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Originally Posted by Rover1
In which other major city do you have to pay to cross the river. certainly not in London


I take it that you are not from these parts We are not a city We are separate entities

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I live in Birkenhead and work in Chester. The natives (mates) know how to wind me up...They call me a Scouser..nuff said

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Originally Posted by IanR123
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In which other major city do you have to pay to cross the river. certainly not in London


I take it that you are not from these parts We are not a city We are separate entities


Well said!

That's how we like it, we are our own unique community and would like to stay that way.

(that's not towards you rover).


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Originally Posted by paganlynn
Wirral used to be part of wales,id sooner go back to Wales then be Liverpool...wirral is not part of Liverpool,we are totally separate


Becoming a Taff would be another step too far, even though from way back I've got Welsh blood it's very, very, very diluted
Another example of what this side of the water would get is BBC Radio Merseyside, it's all Liverpool, Liverpool, Liverpool. BBC TV NW is all Manchester, Manchester, Manchester. Let's face it we are treated like country bumpkins and all we will get is the odd pat on the head and a kick up the arris the rest of the time. Oh, and it will cost us big style.
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