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To Wheels, if this is your own home then according to this you will not be affected.From this site
http://www.housing.org.uk/policy/welfare_reform/%E2%80%98under-occupation%E2%80%99_penalty.aspx
Welfare reforms will cut the amount of benefit that people can get if they are deemed to have a spare bedroom in their council or housing association home. This measure will apply from April 2013 to tenants of working age.
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good luck with the meeting tomorrow night.
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I worry about house sharing which is what they intend under 25 to do and i. Some instances the house/flat share will be with stangers. I wouldnt be happy with my ex partner having our child staying over if this was the case! Is doesnt seem fair as the people at the top making the decisions have never been in this position so dont understand all the consequences.
Everyone needs to get off their backsides and vote next time round as not bothering has been a vote for the Cons!
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good luck with the meeting tomorrow night. Thanks. 
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I worry about house sharing which is what they intend under 25 to do and i. Some instances the house/flat share will be with stangers. I wouldnt be happy with my ex partner having our child staying over if this was the case! Is doesnt seem fair as the people at the top making the decisions have never been in this position so dont understand all the consequences.
Everyone needs to get off their backsides and vote next time round as not bothering has been a vote for the Cons! That's a valid point you make about children staying with parents, in a house share. It's not right.
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Psyched up and Good To Go....
To those who e-mailed me, I thankyou very much.
Will email you all tomorrow and tell you what went on xxx
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Not sure Salmon what you mean by 'your home'? Do you mean owned? Obviously there is no HB for owner-occupied homes so the bedroom tax doesn't apply. The issue about lodgers is very complicated. Some grown up children earn substantial and their parents HB is virtually wiped out. There may be mileage in registering as a lodger rather than a non-dep. That way your parent/s pay the bedroom tax (say £14 for one room) and save far more from the non-dep deduction. saw a post from Granpa George (if you are a real OAP?). You are exempt so it's easy for you to support it. Will you say the same when HMG comes for your heating allowance and bus pass. And incidentally the bedtax may be extended to OAPs at some time in the future (if this shower stays in office).
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Quite right, considering that 52%
of under occupied properties are by people aged 55 years or over! Yet, pensioners are excempt-it makes no sense.
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Not sure Salmon what you mean by 'your home'? Do you mean owned? Obviously there is no HB for owner-occupied homes so the bedroom tax doesn't apply. The issue about lodgers is very complicated. Some grown up children earn substantial and their parents HB is virtually wiped out. There may be mileage in registering as a lodger rather than a non-dep. That way your parent/s pay the bedroom tax (say £14 for one room) and save far more from the non-dep deduction. saw a post from Granpa George (if you are a real OAP?). You are exempt so it's easy for you to support it. Will you say the same when HMG comes for your heating allowance and bus pass. And incidentally the bedtax may be extended to OAPs at some time in the future (if this shower stays in office). Blimey, only his second post and he's having a pop at people already.
Birkenhead........ God's own Room 101.
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I thought andrewood was opposing the point, not the person? but........at risk of being in the Naughty Corner- some members do come across as Fake, especially when you view their early posts 
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www.facebook.com/groups/555921791103090The scousers are not arsing about-these people are positivley militant. This group is less than a week old....scroll down and view Actions planned. Multiply that throughout the country.... Maybe, whilst at it go and view this group too www.facebook.com/groups/128721743952296and join Wirral based group. (pinned post).
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anyonewho takes a right of centre view just gets slagged off on here so there is no real debate anyway. Total waste of time.
Birkenhead........ God's own Room 101.
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I was trying to give Wheels some comfort as he had posted
"25% for me although its MY house frown absolute joke!"
But according to the site that I posted from this bedroom tax does not apply to own homes.
Quote :Welfare reforms will cut the amount of benefit that people can get if they are deemed to have a spare bedroom in their council or housing association home. This measure will apply from April 2013 to tenants of working age.
http://www.housing.org.uk/policy/welfare_reform/%E2%80%98under-occupation%E2%80%99_penalty.aspx.
Am I completely misreading this?
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Is there a legal definition for "bedroom" in the proposed tax. Is a small box room classed as a bedroom. Is a room without a bed in it a bedroom? Apparently the Govt gave some recommendations years ago for asylum seekers stating a minimum size of room that would be classed as bedroom. Doesnt seem to be that well defined. What surprises me is the lack of protest unlike the poll tax--have the councils managed to dumb down all their tenants. can the bedroom tax apply to Wirral Partnership Homes--are they not a private landlord or even a separate entity to the Council? http://speye.wordpress.com/2012/08/23/what-is-a-bedroom-and-why-landlords-dont-want-it-defined/
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Quite right, considering that 52%
of under occupied properties are by people aged 55 years or over! Yet, pensioners are excempt-it makes no sense. It does, they're the people most likely to vote!
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