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#678709 - 24th Mar 2012 9:29am Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident
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A MERSEYSIDE pensioner was found stabbed to death in his home.

Detectives were today leading a murder inquiry after the man, believed to be in his 70s, was found dead by police.

Officers were called to a house on Dawson Avenue, Birkenhead, at 1.40am yesterday after a report of an assault.

The victim, named locally as Herbert “Bert” Allanson, was declared dead at the scene.

Merseyside Police confirmed that a 20-year-old was arrested nearby on suspicion of murder “following a domestic incident”.

Last night shocked neighbours paid tribute to Mr Allanson, who was a retired greengrocer.

Jenny Taylor told the ECHO: “Bert was very kind. He looked after everyone on the street, he did all my plants for me. At Christmas he would bring sausage rolls and mince pies round. He would always do you a favour anytime. He would give me lifts.

“He loved children and was great with my sons and grandchildren.

“He wasn’t very close to his family and kept himself to himself the rest of the time. I’ve known him for years he used to have a greengrocers on Duke Street and worked for a friend on a fruit and veg stall in Birkenhead market.

“We heard he was stabbed.”

Mrs Taylor added that she had been woken up around 2am when she heard banging.

She said: “I looked out and saw police and they were breaking down the front door.”

Another neighbour, who didn’t want to be named, said: “Bert had a kind heart, it’s so sad.”

Danny Doyle, marketing director at Birkenhead Indoor Market said: “Bert was a long-standing employee and our thoughts and prayers are with his family and friends.”

A post-mortem carried out last night revealed that the victim died from stab wounds.

A police spokesman said: “The man is yet to be formally identified by next of kin. The 20-year-old man remains in police custody at this time.”

Anyone with information is asked to contact Merseyside Police on 0151 777 2265 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

Source Liverpool Echo
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#678710 - 24th Mar 2012 9:30am Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: jonno40]
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Very Very sad ...RIP BERT you will be sorely missed
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#678712 - 24th Mar 2012 9:35am Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: jonno40]
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When i was a kid there was a Greengrocers in Upton called Allinsons i think, but always called him Ian. Any link??

mad sad world we have built here people!!!

Stop the world....I want to get off!!


Edited by hoseman (24th Mar 2012 9:35am)
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#678716 - 24th Mar 2012 9:52am Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: jonno40]
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This is yet another shocking crime ,why have these young kids got no respect any more ? no morals ? .He should get life for that bloody misfit !!!!!

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#678729 - 24th Mar 2012 10:50am Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: hoseman]
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Originally Posted By: hoseman
When i was a kid there was a Greengrocers in Upton called Allinsons i think, but always called him Ian. Any link??

mad sad world we have built here people!!!

Stop the world....I want to get off!!

Hoseman --- you should put this kid in the crusher when you do the test run!

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#678737 - 24th Mar 2012 11:09am Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: Tatey]
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Theres a crusher / shredder in EMR metal Recyclers in Liverpool. Two guys have been killed in it from new. Not much left to identify!
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#678740 - 24th Mar 2012 11:24am Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: Tatey]
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Originally Posted By: Tatey
Originally Posted By: hoseman
When i was a kid there was a Greengrocers in Upton called Allinsons i think, but always called him Ian. Any link??

mad sad world we have built here people!!!

Stop the world....I want to get off!!

Hoseman --- you should put this kid in the crusher when you do the test run!


Dont forget their family and friends, all must have the nuts gene.
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#678744 - 24th Mar 2012 11:40am Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: hoseman]
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Originally Posted By: hoseman
When i was a kid there was a Greengrocers in Upton called Allinsons i think, but always called him Ian. Any link??



It was called Ian's of Upton...he has since moved to Moreton , where he still has a greengrocers....before it was Ian's of Upton I do believe it was Nixon's greengrocers

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#678765 - 24th Mar 2012 2:01pm Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: jonno40]
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This guy was a personal friend of mine,he was a kind and generous soul.R.I.P Bert,you will be missed by a lot of us.God bless my friend.

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#678774 - 24th Mar 2012 3:21pm Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: jonno40]
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RIP Bert, the missus remembers you from the market.
Remember the good old days when a domestic incident meant someone had just had a row? It's getting worse.
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#678782 - 24th Mar 2012 3:51pm Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: jonno40]
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LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR KIND WORDS..THEY MEAN A LOT AT THIS TIME TO ME BERT'S BROTHER AND HIS SISTER EDNA..

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#678824 - 24th Mar 2012 9:23pm Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: jonno40]
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Should bring back hanging dna proves guilt beyond doubt

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#678838 - 24th Mar 2012 10:50pm Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: jonno40]
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So very sorry to hear this awful News, deepest sympathy to Bert`s Brother, Sister, family & friends. This seems to be all we hear lately, becoming a sad sad world to live in.

Re Ian`s in Upton, I used to go there with my grandfather Albert Binyon many moons ago, my grandfather Albert brought me up from the age of 2 and knew practically everybody in Upton Village, and there was a shop called Lipton`s, brings back some nicer memories xx

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#678936 - 25th Mar 2012 3:10pm Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: jonno40]
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Heard the old man was raping the lad when he was younger.

Don't know how true but if it is he deserved to die imo.


Edited by Mark (25th Mar 2012 11:02pm)

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#678938 - 25th Mar 2012 3:23pm Re: Greengocer stabbed to death in domestic incident [Re: davaw1]
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no need to post hear say. someone has been arrested and they will have their day in court and the true details will be known then so all that needs to be said is condolences to the family and leave the chinese whispers off here

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