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I passed it and went to Wirral Grammar in the 80's I'm wondering If I know Wench lol
My daughter will be sitting the 11+ next year. We've been touring schools this year.
The system as we understand it is different to how dizdazdoz describes it. You choose three schools. The schools do not know what order you put them in. Each school has their own selection criteria and uses that to process your child. Some are based on ability, some are based on distance and some favour special needs, some seem to favour kids stong in say sciences..
If a school requires an 11+ pass you sit the exam. It's optional in that you can choose a none 11+ school. Incidently, some private/semi private schools also have their own entrance exam so you can apply to schools with out using the LEA or 11+. (Upton Hall for example. So you can apply to more than 3 schools via this back door.
So if a school has an entry of say 150 (5 classes of 30) and your child is ranked by their systema as 79, they get offered a place. if you are ranked 155, they do not. So a child may meet teh criteria of all three schools or only one. The LEA then collate the offers and offer you a school based on you preferences. I think if you have more than one offer you can choose.
What is crazy is that the parents have to go to the open days, check out and choose a school and apply in 3 weeks. There is no way to make an informed choice int hat time. So we started a year early and have it down to 4 or 5 schools. 3 definates and 2 not sures. i.e. ones we want tolike but something is stopping us. Thats correct and what I was trying to say, where you say the schools dont know the order is what I meant about if you fail the 11+ your second choice is your 1st choice but the school's dont know that so cant judge you for not choosing them 1st. It is a crazy system but better than 4 years ago. Our oldest could have sat it and would have been close we were told, however if you failed then you were given a place at ANY school that had places left and not you 2nd prefered school.
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There was also a 13+ for a while. The idea was that some late developers, having passed the test, could transfer to one of a limited number of places at a Grammar School, after their second year in a Secondary School.
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i failed 11+ but as we were the first year of the comprehensive system, still ended up at wallasey grammar school/ henry meoles/
cos i'm that kinda guy...
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I passed the 11+ at Cole Street primary in 1967 (I think!) and went to Park High Grammar School for Girls. In the 3rd year we became co-ed with the boys school and gained some fabulous teachers from there. The following year I think we became comprehensive and a lot of kids who had passed the 13+ joined us as did a lot of rubbish teachers. I went through the entire 'O' level year with a teacher who admitted to my mother at parents evening that she did not know who I was even though I was taking her subject at 'O' level.
There was no tutoring as such to get through the 11+, we just sat mock tests every now and then.
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I'm fairly sure Park High has never been a grammar school, it was secondary modern before becoming comprehensive in 1972
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If you go back far enought to during the 50s. Park High, Rock ferry High and the Birkenhead I. Where all for the 11 plus pass boys. Secondary modern schools such as the Grange, Prenton park {temple road} and the Kirklands where for the likes of me who failed the 11 plus. If you where very bright and got top marks in the 11 plus you could be given a place at the BIRKENHEAD SCHOOL or WIRRAL GRAMMER which where both FEE PAYING SCHOOLS FOR THOSE THAT HAD MONEY AND COULD AFFORD TO BUY THE BEST EDUCATION.
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Park High for boys was certainly a grammar school in 1963, as it was my second choice school.
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Park High for boys was certainly a grammar school in 1963, as it was my second choice school. Thanks for that info, it confirms my memory banks are not quite dead yet even if the rest of my brain is.
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Seem to recall there where 2 Park high schools, one for boys and one for girls, was the one in claughton village the boys or girls school.
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Park High School for Girls used to be known as The Girls Secondary School but even then it was a grammar school.
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My mistake, I thought only Wallasey went down the route of having a large number of grammar schools. Generally a "high" school was secondary modern.
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Wallasey High School was a 'grammar' school (as opposed to Sec. Modern I mean...)
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i passed my 11 plus in the 50s and went to rocky high which was a grammar school,not a secondary modern.
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I might have known that Wirral bucked the trend when it comes to education matters. There are (relatively) very few grammar schools left in the country, most areas went comprehensive. I've lost count of the number of different types of school that now exist in the Wirral.
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I might have known that Wirral bucked the trend when it comes to education matters. There are (relatively) very few grammar schools left in the country, most areas went comprehensive. I've lost count of the number of different types of school that now exist in the Wirral.
dont think it was a case of bucking the trend when at the time of a large number of grammer schools on the wirral, as it was DURING THE 50s. Comprehensive schools had not even been thought of in those days. At least no matter what level of education you got in those days we could all read and write when we left school at 15 years of age.
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