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Originally Posted by TheDr
Ventilation didn't work properly in the Birkenhead tunnel for YEARS, you could actually taste the air as you went through it.

Someone said it might be in case of an accident, well surely thats what the moles are for, and if they are a real police force, as they've claimed for years, they can't go on strike.


You don't just need the Tunnel Police to keep the tunnels open but also a number of engineers. There are a number of different types of Police Forces in the UK: M.O.D., Nuclear, Port etc. I think the Tunnel police have, for some reason, the right to strike unlike Merseyside Police. They do however have most of the Police powers within their own area.

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Hahaha! Probably not on the Wirral as they work for a private contractor on behalf of Wirral Council. They probably will be on strike in Liverpool though as over there they're Council employees.

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Hahaha! Probably not on the Wirral as they work for a private contractor on behalf of Wirral Council. They probably will be on strike in Liverpool though as over there they're Council employees.


It's NSL I think. I wouldn't have thought something like that would be contracted out, if it's about a contractor making profits?

I was in Liverpool last night and completely forgot about the tunnels. Had to come home through Speke/Chester, got home at 2am.


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As a % of the total pension pot (given in the annual reports) it is small for all the Directors together - and remember the payments they have made INTO the pot have been huge. No, I am NOT a Director or anything like. Indeed, after 40 years there as a moderately senior person (but still lowly) in terms of responsibility ie handling budget decisions up to £1 million, my pension nearly equates to as much as that of a teacher. I do however know how hard some of the Directors & very senior people worked, how dedicated they were to the business and the staffs and I do not begrudge them what they get.



Fair enough. Just don't begrudge much lower paid workers a decent retirement. And remember, without the people lower down the chain, there wouldn't be any company at all. People at ALL levels work hard so ALL deserve good pensions.


Various groups of public sector workers will be going on strike on 30 November over planned changes to their pension schemes. What percentage of their earnings do public sector workers contribute to their final salary pension schemes? Civil servants who joined before 2002 1.5Civil servants who joined after 2002 3.5Civil servants after planned reforms 1.5 to 5.9Teachers 6.4Doctors and nurses 5 to 8.5 What private sector workers would have to contribute ifthey wanted to enjoy the same pension 37
Note. This information appears on page 14 of the latest Spectator published on 19 November 2011.


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