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devvo'd suarez been given an 8 match ban, hope they appeal that!
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Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association Commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him.
We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment. We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation.
We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.
The Club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion. We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person's background.
LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable - without compromise. It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act. It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations.
It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'. The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist.
Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black. He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person's skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team.
He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends.
It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suarez has been characterised.
It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suarez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name.
We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult.
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John Barnes made some interesting comments about the Suarezgate (I just made that up myself :-)) situation yesterday. He said that "Ignorance is not an excuse-but in this case it could be an excuse!" He was referring to the fact that, in Uruguay, where Suarez originates from, calling a black guy a "negro" is acceptable. "Negro" is actually the Spanish word for black and must obviously be used in a different context over there. Coming from a black man like John Barnes, who was one of the first generation of black players to suffer terrible racial abuse by the then generation of so-called supporters, I think it is admirable that he should be seeking to build bridges for the future and not to crucify a man who is a relative stranger in our country who has been welcomed with open arms by the fans of LFC-and overtly supported by his manager and team mates in the face of intmidating criticism from the "powers that be" Obviously, Suarez has said something to upset Patrice Evra. Knowing Evra's background as a bit of a trouble maker at international level (remember he almost got the French manager the boot at the World Cup) I myself question Evra's motives. I played the game at a decent level and remember full well people like Jake Doran, the famous centre-half of Cammell Lairds, who was one of the hardest men I ever played against, offering to kick me up in the air when I nutmegged him-and calling me a F***g dwarf!! It was all taken in good spirit and was "part of the game". The world is going mad now. Evra should front up and apologise to Suarez for being an asshole.
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John Barnes made some interesting comments about the Suarezgate (I just made that up myself :-)) situation yesterday. He said that "Ignorance is not an excuse-but in this case it could be an excuse!" He was referring to the fact that, in Uruguay, where Suarez originates from, calling a black guy a "negro" is acceptable. "Negro" is actually the Spanish word for black and must obviously be used in a different context over there. Coming from a black man like John Barnes, who was one of the first generation of black players to suffer terrible racial abuse by the then generation of so-called supporters, I think it is admirable that he should be seeking to build bridges for the future and not to crucify a man who is a relative stranger in our country who has been welcomed with open arms by the fans of LFC-and overtly supported by his manager and team mates in the face of intmidating criticism from the "powers that be" Obviously, Suarez has said something to upset Patrice Evra. Knowing Evra's background as a bit of a trouble maker at international level (remember he almost got the French manager the boot at the World Cup) I myself question Evra's motives. I played the game at a decent level and remember full well people like Jake Doran, the famous centre-half of Cammell Lairds, who was one of the hardest men I ever played against, offering to kick me up in the air when I nutmegged him-and calling me a F***g dwarf!! It was all taken in good spirit and was "part of the game". The world is going mad now. Evra should front up and apologise to Suarez for being an asshole. your so sensible now where has that funny dwarf gone :r:lol
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John Barnes made some interesting comments about the Suarezgate (I just made that up myself :-)) situation yesterday. He said that "Ignorance is not an excuse-but in this case it could be an excuse!" He was referring to the fact that, in Uruguay, where Suarez originates from, calling a black guy a "negro" is acceptable. "Negro" is actually the Spanish word for black and must obviously be used in a different context over there. Coming from a black man like John Barnes, who was one of the first generation of black players to suffer terrible racial abuse by the then generation of so-called supporters, I think it is admirable that he should be seeking to build bridges for the future and not to crucify a man who is a relative stranger in our country who has been welcomed with open arms by the fans of LFC-and overtly supported by his manager and team mates in the face of intmidating criticism from the "powers that be" Obviously, Suarez has said something to upset Patrice Evra. Knowing Evra's background as a bit of a trouble maker at international level (remember he almost got the French manager the boot at the World Cup) I myself question Evra's motives. I played the game at a decent level and remember full well people like Jake Doran, the famous centre-half of Cammell Lairds, who was one of the hardest men I ever played against, offering to kick me up in the air when I nutmegged him-and calling me a F***g dwarf!! It was all taken in good spirit and was "part of the game". The world is going mad now. Evra should front up and apologise to Suarez for being an asshole. whodid u play for?
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was it gen chems in them days or actual runcorn?
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No, Tony. It was Runcorn. The Linnets. Home ground at Canal St (complete with ridiculous slope!) Stan Storton, (the former Tranmere player) was the manager and Alan King, (the former Tranmere player) was the team captain. I played for the TRFC "A" team before a knee injury put paid to a professional career. I also turned out briefly for Bromborough Pool and Stork in the West Cheshire league.
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OMG! We have a famous member! Lol Only teasing Fil.
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lol, Bezzy. I can take the flak. Used to get much worse than that from the crowd!! :-)
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No, Tony. It was Runcorn. The Linnets. Home ground at Canal St (complete with ridiculous slope!) Stan Storton, (the former Tranmere player) was the manager and Alan King, (the former Tranmere player) was the team captain. I played for the TRFC "A" team before a knee injury put paid to a professional career. I also turned out briefly for Bromborough Pool and Stork in the West Cheshire league. we (Ashville) won the cheshire amateur cup at the linnets ground in may. what years where you playing?
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Mid-70s. Did you get your mountaineering certificate for playing up the slope? :-)
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Mid-70s. Did you get your mountaineering certificate for playing up the slope? :-) im on the committee i do not play but its a different ground from the one that you mean, but i can remember it and it was a bad pitch haha
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