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Originally Posted by Nelzy84

Interesting that the fella who pioleted the twin tower plane was trained in a cessna. Slightly different kettle of fish i'd say. It's like taking your test in a micra and then trying to jump into a F1 car and expect to drive it. My uncle is a captain for BA and has also pointed out the level of skill required to pin point that building would have required a greater degree of Skill than that provided by the flight instructor in the light aircraft,


Pretty sure that the guy in this book stated that the 911 hijackers were trained on larger passenger aircraft in Arizona. Has been too long since I've read it though and I'm not entirely sure what his exact description of the planes were, but IIRC they flew bigger than Cessna's. Good book, well worth reading.


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Thanks for that ex will have to have a read of that, i was always let to believe it was small Cessna 172's did a quick google on that point and come up with this, there's bound to be a bit of variation and hear say but as i mentioned before the chap who told me is first captain, lives and breathes aviation unlikley that bein the boffin he is he got it wrong

The chap supposedly piloting the Boeing got rejected from a solo flight on a cessna so they wouldn't even trust him in one

Suprising as they really are a piece of pi** to fly as are the Pipers, i got my first few hours in a Piper PA38, rickety bins that they are hehe

Yopur right on the Arizona part though

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.co...y-flying-heavy-aircraft-without-training

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/hanjour.html

To be fair it's hard to know what to believe but there is always contradiciting info





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I'll have a quick skim through when I get home in half an hour or so and see if I can find it.


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Originally Posted by Nelzy84
Yanks buy what ever their spoon fed, sheeple who don't question what they are being told.
You don't think that maybe, you might just possibly be over-generalizing there, just the teeniest little bit? What an asinine comment.

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I'll have a quick skim through when I get home in half an hour or so and see if I can find it.


Yeah, it states here while the author was hanging out with the soon to be 911 bombers and their friends the saudi's took 747 flight & mechanics courses and 747 flight lessons. The majority of them took ultralight and then small aircraft flight lessons on the side as well.

The guy that (allegedly) flew a plane into the pentagon was certified as a passenger plane pilot in 1999 (Hani Hanjoor).


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Originally Posted by Nelzy84
Yanks buy what ever their spoon fed, sheeple who don't question what they are being told.
You don't think that maybe, you might just possibly be over-generalizing there, just the teeniest little bit? What an asinine comment.


Hi CV

Sorry if i offended, i don't think that was a daft comment mate as theirs probably a higher number who buy into the BS than those that, it was a generalisation but to be fair it's not to wide of the mark, its probably nearer 70% who believe what they are spoonfed, on the same side of the coin its also a generalisation from the yanks that any one fron an Eastern state is probably a terrorist or are affiliated with terrorism.

The point is the Americans lap up anything they are told by the american media especially the likes of CIA funded CNN which is obviously going to report the news the way the goverment want you to hear it.

I've been to the states numerous times and they seem to live in their own bubble all that gets reported is American news is stuff in America, very rarely do they pay attention to anywhere bar the states unless its a foreign country that they're stealing oil from or have a conflict of interest such as China or Russia. I found that very strange that they assume they are top of the tree, i once got asked by a girl in Walmart if the British celebrated Christmas WTF, ignorant isn't the word, the world doesn't revolve around America as much as they like to think it does they only stomach the British because mosy of the bloodline is mixed in with those of presidental candidates, odd that those that become elected have always got some royal blood in them somewhere, any country that takes its orders from Skull and bones needs their heads checking. It's not a snipe at you CV you are obviously one who thinks outside the box and doesn't take it lying down like all those muppets at ground zero chanting, mindless to say the least, interesting aswell that most of the americans i've spoken to will not even entertain the fact it was an inside job and get really defensive about it amazing how people can be brainwashed

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I'll have a quick skim through when I get home in half an hour or so and see if I can find it.


Yeah, it states here while the author was hanging out with the soon to be 911 bombers and their friends the saudi's took 747 flight & mechanics courses and 747 flight lessons. The majority of them took ultralight and then small aircraft flight lessons on the side as well.

The guy that (allegedly) flew a plane into the pentagon was certified as a passenger plane pilot in 1999 (Hani Hanjoor).


Nice one Ex, ping over any usefull links you may have it's always interesting, best to stay open minded and try pick up the info from as many reliable sources possible and then make your own assumptions based on what you find. I didn't know Hanjoor was commercially trained will do a bit of homework on that, so thanks for the shout. Have you heard that it was supposed to be a stinger that hit the pentagon and the debris that was planted was from a different aircraft again which raised suspicions in the first place ?


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I'll have a quick skim through when I get home in half an hour or so and see if I can find it.


Yeah, it states here while the author was hanging out with the soon to be 911 bombers and their friends the saudi's took 747 flight & mechanics courses and 747 flight lessons. The majority of them took ultralight and then small aircraft flight lessons on the side as well.

The guy that (allegedly) flew a plane into the pentagon was certified as a passenger plane pilot in 1999 (Hani Hanjoor).


Nice one Ex, ping over any usefull links you may have it's always interesting, best to stay open minded and try pick up the info from as many reliable sources possible and then make your own assumptions based on what you find. I didn't know Hanjoor was commercially trained will do a bit of homework on that, so thanks for the shout. Have you heard that it was supposed to be a stinger that hit the pentagon and the debris that was planted was from a different aircraft again which raised suspicions in the first place ?

Theres no way you could get that sort of damage sustained by the Pentagon with a Stinger missile,The Stinger is a shoulder mounted Anti-Aircraft missile,In my opinion the Pentagon would have had to have been hit by a Cruise missile to cause that damage,that is far more feasable than by being hit by a B757,In any catostrophic air accident the engines almost always remain fairly intact but not in the Pentagon incident!!!

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Good call Oitsnik, thats the one i was reffering too, sorry my bad it was a cruise ballistic missile that is supposed to have punctured the perimter wall, the parts they found where supposdly different from the plane they where reporting to have hit the Pentagon, some of my facts are off as it was a while ago and i'm recounting the things i've heard over the years of the top of my head, i'll google it and see if i can see what aircraft they where supposed to be, their was a cracking documentary my dad showed me a few years back called loose change, its on youtube and a lot of the stuff they say makes sense, good thing is the people testifing aren't your local village cranks but repetuble / responsabile peeps who have held positions such as fire marshalls, defense staff blah blah worth a watch dude


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10 years searching..
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Smart-bombs.
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Un-manned drones.
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And the USA finally found Bin Laden in his fookin house!

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