WikiWirral its great, register, enjoy and welcome.
Forum Stats
12247 Members
65 Forums
72883 Topics
982469 Posts
96 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
75 registered (11kendo, 13 invisible), 1709 Guests and 335 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Incident at Westminster 802
What happened to Tranmere car bootie? 626
Martin Mcguinness dies 597
Alloys refurb and colour change. The Wheel Deal. 499
File too large 443
Council tax bill for this year 2017 419
British troops to Estonia 375
Has anyone fished 335
Offset number plates 321
1882 Plan of the borough of Birkenhead and Wards 319
New General Forums
Mannequin Challenge AKA MRI Scan
by fish5133
Today at 11:20 AM
Surely the most honest add.....
by buddy
20th Mar 2017 5:43pm
Happy Birthday DIZDAZDOZ
by snowhite
19th Mar 2017 4:24pm
My old friend the fox
by Dilly
18th Mar 2017 11:15am
New Wirral History
William Bernard's building, Birkenhead
by yoller
20th Mar 2017 4:27pm
1882 Plan of the borough of Birkenhead and Wards
by Dave_Wood
19th Mar 2017 11:57am
New Brighton Coop
by Mike_White
9th Mar 2017 12:48pm
Tranmere High School for Girls 1882 Chesnut Grove
by sarah708
6th Mar 2017 8:23pm
Whetstone Lane, Birkenhead
by MoretonExpat
6th Mar 2017 8:04am
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
Birkenhead Transport Museum 24th Feb 2017
fireworks on the Mersey last night
Topic Replies
Has Talktalk been hacked yet again?
by Habdab
Today at 12:38 PM
Incident at Westminster
by fish5133
Today at 10:31 AM
Offset number plates
by Gibbo
Today at 09:57 AM
What song are you listening to?
by eggandchips
Today at 09:04 AM
'March' Photo Competition.
by fish5133
Yesterday at 08:53 PM
706 Plough Inn 25and 27 Breck Road Wallasey
by tigertiger1953
Yesterday at 04:25 PM
What are you eating today?
by Dilly
Yesterday at 01:44 PM
Genuine Canada Goose Men's Chilliwack Jacket - L
by Liverpooltiger
Yesterday at 01:14 PM
It's Broken : Forum Update
by lollipop
Yesterday at 08:53 AM
March
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Lee and Cragg Quarries - Bacup
by Mark
Yesterday at 07:43 AM
Rufford Old Hall
by diggingdeeper
13th Mar 2017 9:58am
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#428754 - 2nd Sep 2010 7:28pm Hamilton square built elsewhere.
ghostly1 Offline
Smartchild

Registered: 25th Nov 2007
Posts: 405
Loc: Liscard
A quick question, was the section of Hamilton Square that is the town hall an after thought when it was designed and the building materials that would of been used to continue the buildings all the way round, that fill the rest of the square, have been built elsewhere. Where they built on park road near Radnor place or devonshire road near slatey road. If you go on street view you will see what I mean???

I hOpe that makes sense?? I have written this on a mobile !


Edited by ghostly1 (2nd Sep 2010 7:29pm)

Top
Wirral History Info Advertising
Click me for more Information......


Looking for a Service / Tradesman? Look in our Local Business Directory. Click Me
#428757 - 2nd Sep 2010 7:32pm Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: ghostly1]
pacef8 Offline
Smartchild

Registered: 27th Dec 2008
Posts: 464
Loc: south wirral
From what i understand the first side was built as a practise in oxton in devonshire park then the hamilton square development took place a few years later.

It was built to incorporate the town hall as one side.

I hope this helps

Top
#428761 - 2nd Sep 2010 7:56pm Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: pacef8]
ghostly1 Offline
Smartchild

Registered: 25th Nov 2007
Posts: 405
Loc: Liscard
thanks pacef8 that helps answer that question, i noticed the similarity on a short walk around birkenhead today. Wondered if they where connected.

Cheers again!

Top
#428763 - 2nd Sep 2010 8:00pm Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: ghostly1]
bert1 Offline

Wiki Veteran

Registered: 27th Nov 2008
Posts: 7864
Loc: tranmere
Why would they need to practise the building of Hamilton sq, It wasn't as if architecture and the ability to build fine buildings was not already established.
_________________________
God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.


Bertieone.

Top
#428767 - 2nd Sep 2010 8:12pm Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: bert1]
BMW Joe Offline
Wiki Master

Registered: 30th Apr 2006
Posts: 12369
Loc: Birkenhead
Some History of the Birkenhead town hall in this topic here
_________________________
Autowirral.co.uk - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Motoring Enthusiasts.
Cruisewirral.com - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Modified Car Enthusiasts.

Top
#429034 - 3rd Sep 2010 10:38pm Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: ghostly1]
arsenal Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 8th Aug 2010
Posts: 111
Loc: birkenhead
the missing part of hamilton square that you're looking for is st aidens terrace which is in between shrewsbury road claughton and the roundabout at the top of forest road.i,ve known about this for 50 years

Top
#429061 - 4th Sep 2010 3:33am Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: arsenal]
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Guardian

Registered: 9th Jul 2008
Posts: 9871
Loc: Birkenhead
Kenyon Terrace in Devonshire Road is Grade II listed.
Quite a number of properties on Park Road are also Grade II listed.
Yet St Aidans Terrace isn't.

SOURCE
_________________________
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. Socrates

Top
#429070 - 4th Sep 2010 10:28am Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: arsenal]
uptoncx Offline
Veteran

Registered: 24th May 2008
Posts: 683
Loc: Wirral

I seem to remember reading, probably in the 1960s, that Gillespie Graham had been 'unhappy' when he learnt that only three sides of his square were to be built, and insisted that the fourth side be built or he would withdraw. The fourth side was built on Westminster Road which was later renamed St Aidens Terrace.

I went down for a quick check this morning, but I'm not sure I'm convinced:


Attachments: Viewing Permissions May Apply. Click Me
staiden1.jpg

Description: Hamilton square (opposite side to Town Hall)

staiden2.jpg

Description: St Aidens Terrace



Top
#429078 - 4th Sep 2010 11:51am Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: diggingdeeper]
derekdwc Online   content


Forum Veteran

Registered: 13th Oct 2008
Posts: 4983
Loc: Birkenhead
thanks for the link DD
I would be interested in a new topic listed buildings and their pics possibly before they disappear have to tell me how to do the clicky
source button

http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/england/merseyside/birkenhead


Edited by derekdwc (4th Sep 2010 11:54am)

Top
#429082 - 4th Sep 2010 12:24pm Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: diggingdeeper]
uptoncx Offline
Veteran

Registered: 24th May 2008
Posts: 683
Loc: Wirral
Originally Posted By: diggingdeeper
Kenyon Terrace in Devonshire Road is Grade II listed.
Quite a number of properties on Park Road are also Grade II listed.
Yet St Aidans Terrace isn't.


According to the English Heritage site, St Aidans Terrace is listed Grade II

Listing Text:

BIRKENHEAD

SJ28NE ST AIDAN'S TERRACE, Claughton
789-1/3/207 (North side)
28/03/74 Nos.1-9 (Consecutive)
with railings to front

GV II

Includes: No.44 FOREST ROAD Claughton.
Terrace of 9 houses. c1850. Ashlar-faced over brick with Welsh
slate roof. 3-storeyed with basements. Symmetrically-planned
terrace with advanced outer and stepped central bays. Each
house comprises 5-window range with central doorway and 2
windows to principal rooms each side. Outer bays have doorway
in Doric portico porch and round arched sash windows to ground
floor. Sash windows to first floor have alternately segmental
and triangular pedimented heads carried on brackets. Central
house similar. Linking ranges have doorways in architraves
with engaged shafts, canted bay window to one room, two 4-pane
sash windows to the other. Upper windows have stressed
entablatures carried on brackets. End wall stacks.
(The Buildings of England: Pevsner N and Hubbard E: Cheshire:
Harmondsworth: 1971-).

Listing NGR: SJ3476492903

Top
#429084 - 4th Sep 2010 12:37pm Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: uptoncx]
ghostly1 Offline
Smartchild

Registered: 25th Nov 2007
Posts: 405
Loc: Liscard
Amazing information from everyone thanks for sharing!!

Top
#429087 - 4th Sep 2010 12:58pm Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: ghostly1]
bert1 Offline

Wiki Veteran

Registered: 27th Nov 2008
Posts: 7864
Loc: tranmere
Hamilton Sq was completed by the 1850s and described as a beautiful quadrangle, the exception was the site of the town hall, the commissioners reserved the site around 1835 to build the town hall, this was around the time the first town hall was opened. Because of costs, plans to build the existing town hall were shelved until its foundation stone was laid in 1883.
Is it being suggested by contributors that St Aidan's terrace should have slotted in to the site of the town hall. I have to agree with upton, not convinced.
_________________________
God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.


Bertieone.

Top
#429131 - 4th Sep 2010 5:25pm Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: bert1]
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Guardian

Registered: 9th Jul 2008
Posts: 9871
Loc: Birkenhead
Thanks Upton, I thought it quite strange because I remembered St Aidans being discussed as of historical importance.

Should have used a primary source frown
_________________________
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. Socrates

Top
#429142 - 4th Sep 2010 5:50pm Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: diggingdeeper]
Capt_America Online   content
Forum Addict

Registered: 26th Jul 2008
Posts: 1499
Loc: Wallasey
Wasn't the town hall re-built after a fire. What's there now wouldn't have been "original".
_________________________
See you in cyberspace!

Top
#429147 - 4th Sep 2010 5:59pm Re: Hamilton square built elsewhere. [Re: Capt_America]
bert1 Offline

Wiki Veteran

Registered: 27th Nov 2008
Posts: 7864
Loc: tranmere
There was a fire in 1901 which caused the clock tower to come down and damage was caused to the council chamber and anterooms. It was renovated and the clock tower was rebuilt to a different design, the dome was changed.
_________________________
God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.


Bertieone.

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Moderator:  Mark 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Has Talktalk been hacked yet again?
by Habdab
Today at 10:25 AM
Offset number plates
by venice
Yesterday at 01:24 AM
What does this all mean?
by venice
22nd Mar 2017 12:20pm
black contiboard locally?
by fish5133
21st Mar 2017 9:30pm
Port Sunlight
by alan128
21st Mar 2017 10:09am
For Sale & Free
Genuine Canada Goose Men's Chilliwack Jacket - L
by Liverpooltiger
Yesterday at 01:14 PM
Nail Varnish Stands X 2 (holds 50 in each one)
by j_demo
20th Mar 2017 5:49pm
Ipad
by madrob
19th Mar 2017 5:15pm
windows 7 64bit pc
by brady
18th Mar 2017 4:49pm
Petrol Lawnmower to purchase
by saltytom
18th Mar 2017 8:42am
Featured Member
Registered: 18th Feb 2014
Posts: 23
Newest Members
Monkeyboyliam121, andreap, LairdLad, HollandGj, petaann
12247 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Has Talktalk been hacked yet again?
by Habdab
Today at 10:25 AM
What does this all mean?
by venice
22nd Mar 2017 12:20pm
black contiboard locally?
by fish5133
21st Mar 2017 9:30pm
Port Sunlight
by alan128
21st Mar 2017 10:09am
Council tax bill for this year 2017
by keef666
20th Mar 2017 10:25pm
News : New Topics
Incident at Westminster
by granny
22nd Mar 2017 3:40pm
Martin Mcguinness dies
by Dilly
21st Mar 2017 9:29am
British troops to Estonia
by fish5133
18th Mar 2017 8:16am
Unusual Phone calls
by granny
16th Mar 2017 3:53pm
Thanks
by Christinerowland
14th Mar 2017 8:11pm
New Enthusiast Forums
Offset number plates
by venice
Yesterday at 01:24 AM
File too large
by Dilly
20th Mar 2017 10:41am
ford focus 1.6 t reg rattling
by Little_B
19th Mar 2017 11:02pm
Alloys refurb and colour change. The Wheel Deal.
by TheComputerLab
18th Mar 2017 9:17am
Has anyone fished
by Habdab
17th Mar 2017 8:43pm
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Has Talktalk been hacked yet again? 57
Mannequin Challenge AKA MRI Scan 7
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Fri 6:02am
Sunset Fri 6:33pm
Local Time Fri 2:04pm
WikiWirral Can . . . .
Advertising Click me
To Advertise with
Wikiwirral Click Me