WikiWirral Online with you since 2003, fantastic.
Forum Stats
12457 Members
65 Forums
73763 Topics
997239 Posts
126 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
80 registered (alan128, 17 invisible), 1325 Guests and 244 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Submarine Disaster 734
Jon venables 720
Murderer walks free 321
Great Mystery Of Our Time 303
Likely Lad Rodney Dies 175
David Cassidy 168
Brexit bill 119
Borat 😂 71
Wheelbarrow wanted 68
Elixir of life. 66
New General Forums
Should family hugs be banned?
by cools
Today at 08:29 AM
Elixir of life.
by granny
Yesterday at 10:15 PM
Great Mystery Of Our Time
by Spellbinder
21st Nov 2017 2:19pm
Brexit bill
by casper
20th Nov 2017 7:33pm
New Wirral History
Downloadable oldwirral pdfs
by derekdwc
9th Oct 2017 12:26pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
clipper yachts arriving for round the world race
Azamara,silouette and balmoral this mornig
Topic Replies
For Sale men’s Abercrombie & Fitch & Ralph Lauren
by dodie
Today at 10:31 PM
Jon venables
by granny
Today at 10:30 PM
Wanted house to rent
by dodie
Today at 10:25 PM
Where can I buy conservatory parts?
by locomotive
Today at 09:11 PM
Bodytrain 2 in 1 Exercise bike and Cross trainer
by jonno40
Today at 05:04 PM
Fitting bathroom lights need help
by yr20405
Today at 03:41 PM
What song are you listening to?
by snowhite
Today at 11:07 AM
Submarine Disaster
by RUDEBOX
Yesterday at 10:44 PM
Water Dispenser Cold Cool Machine Cooler
by markyport
Yesterday at 08:53 PM
November
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30
Recent Posts : What's On ?
The Lanterns at Chester Zoo
by granny
16th Nov 2017 1:05pm
bonfire night
by snowhite
3rd Nov 2017 5:40pm
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#365600 - 14th Nov 2009 7:16pm £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile
Mark Online   Reading


Wiki Master

Registered: 9th Nov 2003
Posts: 21086
Loc: Wirral
Friend of mine has just been done for £60 and 3 Points
for Picking up her Mobile Phone While Driving,

The Phone Rang,
She Looked at who was calling and put it in her bag.

The next thing Blues & Twos and Pulled over.

Just a Heads to say with Christmas an all to think
before that drink or Answering that Phone.

It Made me think about mobiles and Driving.
_________________________
My Avatar images are all from the Wirral Gallery.Click Me
Wow Wirral History is coming along Great! Wirral History

we get +200 new members a month now smile

Top
Google Ads
#365618 - 14th Nov 2009 7:49pm Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: Mark]
Tony_1985 Offline

Forum Master

Registered: 19th Aug 2006
Posts: 2421
Loc: Ellesmere Port
They must of assumed she intended on using it

Best thing to do while driving is just ignore it, or it you must use it pull over in a safe place

Top
#365635 - 14th Nov 2009 8:37pm Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: Tony_1985]
Hiekel_Essterol Offline
Addict

Registered: 2nd May 2008
Posts: 275
Loc: Wallasey
Surely she could use the defense that she wasnt using it as a mobile phone? It was simply a device to tell her who wanted to talk to her? And your friends phone log would corroborate this by showing that the call at the time of the alleged offense remained unanswered.

Jimmy Carr got off with a similar offence by saying that he was using his phone to dictate a joke into it therefore it wasnt being used as a 2 way device.
Jimmy Carr story

Dont assume that the police know the law.


Edited by Hiekel_Essterol (14th Nov 2009 8:43pm)
_________________________
Paul

Top
#365637 - 14th Nov 2009 8:42pm Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: Hiekel_Essterol]
Mark Online   Reading


Wiki Master

Registered: 9th Nov 2003
Posts: 21086
Loc: Wirral
She feels that because she had 2 officers in the car there was no point in arguing about it.

I did say simular about it as in you were not talking
nor did you answer the phone.

I will pass on that link


cheers
_________________________
My Avatar images are all from the Wirral Gallery.Click Me
Wow Wirral History is coming along Great! Wirral History

we get +200 new members a month now smile

Top
#365639 - 14th Nov 2009 8:44pm Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: Mark]
Hiekel_Essterol Offline
Addict

Registered: 2nd May 2008
Posts: 275
Loc: Wallasey
Sorry, I added some more to the above post aswell.

Has she already accepted the points and fine or just been accused of it? Might be worth taking it to court.
_________________________
Paul

Top
#365641 - 14th Nov 2009 8:46pm Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: Mark]
Mark Online   Reading


Wiki Master

Registered: 9th Nov 2003
Posts: 21086
Loc: Wirral
After Reading that there is a BUT

It cant be legal to text as that's only one way?
_________________________
My Avatar images are all from the Wirral Gallery.Click Me
Wow Wirral History is coming along Great! Wirral History

we get +200 new members a month now smile

Top
#365647 - 14th Nov 2009 9:03pm Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: Mark]
Hiekel_Essterol Offline
Addict

Registered: 2nd May 2008
Posts: 275
Loc: Wallasey
Thats a tough one. Because the message is only going one way, but the devcie is being used in its capacity as a 2 way device.
_________________________
Paul

Top
#365699 - 15th Nov 2009 2:25am Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: Hiekel_Essterol]
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 9th Jul 2008
Posts: 10810
Loc: Birkenhead
Just holding the phone in your hand is counted as "using" the device, possibly even if it is switched off. That is why a mobile phone mount makes it legal.

I was amazed at the number of merseyside people done for this, I see so many using their phones that I thought the police did nothing.
_________________________
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. Socrates

Top
#365709 - 15th Nov 2009 8:46am Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: diggingdeeper]
Softy_Southerner Offline

Forum Guardian

Registered: 2nd May 2008
Posts: 4093
Loc: Back in Devon
In the paper last week it said that over £1million had been paid in fines in the last year on Merseyside.
They should try sitting on M56 some time - they'd make a bloody forutne.
It's my pet hate and regularly gives me road rage raftl

Top
#365767 - 15th Nov 2009 3:20pm Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: diggingdeeper]
Hiekel_Essterol Offline
Addict

Registered: 2nd May 2008
Posts: 275
Loc: Wallasey
Originally Posted By: diggingdeeper
Just holding the phone in your hand is counted as "using" the device, possibly even if it is switched off. That is why a mobile phone mount makes it legal.

I was amazed at the number of merseyside people done for this, I see so many using their phones that I thought the police did nothing.


But if it isnt being used for the purpose of 'interactive communication' it isnt necessarily an offence. This is possibly the reason that Jimmy Carr wasnt convicted of an offence.
Quote:
From Sussex Police website
What is the law about using mobile phones while driving?
It is illegal to drive a vehicle or ride a motorbike and use a hand held mobile phone or similar device. It is also illegal to supervise a learner and use a hand-held phone. Hands-free phones are also a distraction and you risk prosecution for not having proper control of a vehicle if the police see you driving poorly while using one.
A hand held device is something that ‘is or must be held at some point during the course of making or receiving a call or performing any other interactive communication function’. A device ‘similar’ to a mobile phone includes a device that can be used for sending or receiving spoken or written messages, sending or receiving still or moving images or providing Internet access.
_________________________
Paul

Top
#365784 - 15th Nov 2009 4:28pm Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: Softy_Southerner]
BandyCoot Offline

Forum Veteran

Registered: 7th Dec 2008
Posts: 5368
Loc: Birkenhead
Originally Posted By: Softy_Southerner
In the paper last week it said that over £1million had been paid in fines in the last year on Merseyside.
They should try sitting on M56 some time - they'd make a bloody forutne.
It's my pet hate and regularly gives me road rage raftl

People not being done or being done Softy?
I can't see how anyone can can pick up and look at a phone to see who is ringing, noting who it is, making a decision and then putting it into a handbag without taking their attention from the road. It's all very well until you are hit by someone faffing about with a phone and then you are not so chuffed. At the moment it is just a lottery whether you get caught or not but education of the effects is the real answer. If you use the phone while driving then your driving is shoit. Don't entertain using the phone whilest driving, simple.

nono
_________________________
Birkenhead........ God's own Room 101.

Top
#365817 - 15th Nov 2009 6:10pm Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: BandyCoot]
Hiekel_Essterol Offline
Addict

Registered: 2nd May 2008
Posts: 275
Loc: Wallasey
But what about people changing station on the radio, or setting the air-con/heating? What about map readers?

They are all just as dangerous yet seem to be perfectly within the law.
_________________________
Paul

Top
#366012 - 16th Nov 2009 1:21pm Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: Hiekel_Essterol]
AR_One Offline
Smartchild

Registered: 14th Nov 2007
Posts: 436
Loc: Wirral
Ignoring the semantics of what consitutes "using" a mobile phone surely the Police can just do you for careless driving if you're not actually using the phone but aren't paying proper attention to the road!

Top
#382723 - 24th Jan 2010 2:58pm Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: AR_One]
raymondo Offline
Wise One

Registered: 16th Sep 2009
Posts: 806
Loc: upton
the law is strange in its ways you can use a 2 way radio cb etc as long as it can not be used as a teliphone as well according to the ofcom site but then the bolice could say you didnt have proper control of your car so you knackered anyway BUT its ok for them to use there tetra ones with 2 way radio and mobile phone capabilitys because they are TRAINED TO USE THEM. WTF!

Top
#383052 - 25th Jan 2010 11:54am Re: £60 & 3 Points - Ouch For Looking at a Mobile [Re: raymondo]
BandyCoot Offline

Forum Veteran

Registered: 7th Dec 2008
Posts: 5368
Loc: Birkenhead
At the end of the day there are people getting killed on the roads because people use their phones while driving and lose their concentration, if you think that is ok then don't moan if yourself or a loved one gets injured or killed due to same. Ditto map reading and all the other shoit things people do whilst driving and end up swerving all over the place, it's not good driving, you should drive for other people besides yourself.


Edited by BandyCoot (25th Jan 2010 11:54am)
_________________________
Birkenhead........ God's own Room 101.

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Moderator:  Mod 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Wanted house to rent
by dodie
Today at 10:25 PM
Where can I buy conservatory parts?
by yr20405
Today at 03:45 PM
Jon venables
by Dilly
Yesterday at 07:23 AM
Borat 😂
by _Ste_
Yesterday at 05:08 AM
Murderer walks free
by _Ste_
22nd Nov 2017 2:29pm
For Sale & Free
For Sale men’s Abercrombie & Fitch & Ralph Lauren
by dodie
Today at 10:31 PM
Wanted house to rent
by dodie
Today at 10:25 PM
3 X Eating / Writing Tables
by markyport
Yesterday at 08:24 PM
Bodytrain 2 in 1 Exercise bike and Cross trainer
by jonno40
Yesterday at 12:17 PM
Wheelbarrow wanted
by zigzagwanderer
22nd Nov 2017 2:03pm
Featured Member
Registered: 21st Jun 2011
Posts: 20
Newest Members
Peter_exWirral, gray153, Ria63, Stephen1953, negusmat
12457 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
locomotive (75)
New Wirral Info
Where can I buy conservatory parts?
by yr20405
Today at 03:45 PM
Fitting bathroom lights need help
by yr20405
17th Nov 2017 11:29pm
Games for children
by granny
17th Nov 2017 1:35am
Bath Lifts
by locomotive
16th Nov 2017 6:22pm
The Lanterns at Chester Zoo
by granny
16th Nov 2017 1:05pm
News : New Topics
Jon venables
by Dilly
Yesterday at 07:23 AM
Murderer walks free
by _Ste_
22nd Nov 2017 2:29pm
David Cassidy
by cools
22nd Nov 2017 9:17am
Submarine Disaster
by diggingdeeper
20th Nov 2017 5:46pm
Anyone read this ?
by venice
16th Nov 2017 3:22pm
New Enthusiast Forums
Borat 😂
by _Ste_
Yesterday at 05:08 AM
Likely Lad Rodney Dies
by fish5133
21st Nov 2017 7:43pm
Charity fishing match
by paul110180
17th Nov 2017 9:29pm
Are there any doctors or nurses on here.
by granny
16th Nov 2017 11:52pm
Taltalk Broadband Dying
by diggingdeeper
15th Nov 2017 3:40am
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Where can I buy conservatory parts? 65
Should family hugs be banned? 50
Wanted house to rent 6
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Fri 7:55am
Sunset Fri 4:03pm
Local Time Fri 11:57pm
WikiWirral Can . . . .