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#356627 - 12th Oct 2009 2:39pm parking woes
cookiemonster Offline
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Registered: 17th Jul 2009
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Loc: wirral
After paying for parking in Birkenhead town centre this morning, I arrived back at my car (with 20 minutes left on my pay and display ticket) only to find a parking ticket stuck to my drivers side window (just inches away from the pay and display ticket in the windscreen). I immediately went to the council's parking services department and explained what had happened ( I also presented to them the pay and display ticket which still had 15 minutes of validity) only to be told "I would have to appeal". "what for?" I asked "surely the parking fine is invalid as I have proof that I have paid for the time stated on the pay and display ticket". "that is the procedure" was the final answer.
This brings up some questions regarding the so called "Civil Enforcement Officers" (traffic wardens to you and me).

1. Do the council encourage the tactic of issuing tickets to cars that have a valid pay and display sticker attached? if so what is the point of paying to park as the CEO's will ticket you anyway?
2. Are the CEO's (traffic wardens) on commission for tickets issued? (with Christmas approaching who could blame them for wanting to earn a little extra).
3. What level of training is mandatory to become a CEO (traffic warden)? Basic skills (telling the time in particular) should be a minimum requirement when applying for such positions. but most importantly common sense.

But as we all know common sense does not apply to Wirral borough council.

Is it any wonder that the retail area of Birkenhead town centre is dying on it's feet, It's hardly encouraging shoppers with overly zealous traffic wardens (sorry CEO's) stalking their vehicles (legally parked or not).
I for one will now think twice about doing my shopping in Birkenhead town centre.

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#356645 - 12th Oct 2009 2:59pm Re: parking woes [Re: cookiemonster]
davew3 Offline
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Haven't been near Birkehead or Licard with a car for 2 years now,prefer Ellesmere Port market and Port Arcades,50p 2 hours,it has all the shops we need,if we need anything else plenty of out off town shopping,besides it's filthy,shame,Grange rd in it's heyday was a lovely shopping area.

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#356652 - 12th Oct 2009 3:06pm Re: parking woes [Re: cookiemonster]
polo_phil Offline

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Registered: 9th Jan 2009
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Surely they would have to take a photo of the ticket to proove you've run out of time. which in this case would obviously run out after the time stated on the fine issued?

Thanks for not being one of the cheapskates who parks on my road where I live in Birkenhead blocking driveways and blocking access to even the tinyest of ambulances because a car is plonked on every single corner. The traffic wombles walk past these every day and do nothing and when I pointed it out to the council and suggested maybe double yellow lines round some corners... nothing...

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#356656 - 12th Oct 2009 3:09pm Re: parking woes [Re: polo_phil]
StuyMac Offline

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Registered: 24th Nov 2003
Posts: 12002
Loc: Wirralshire
If it has upset yuo this much go to a solicitor.

They should be able to scratch the parking ticket, and seek compensation for your upset grin

The ticket was probably issued by a Nigerian / Polish worker who can barely read anyway - they tend to do the jobs nobody else wants smile
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#356657 - 12th Oct 2009 3:10pm Re: parking woes [Re: polo_phil]
MattLFC Offline
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Registered: 14th Aug 2004
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Ellesmere Port became free for upto 4 hours a couple of months before last Christmas didnt it?? How come your still paying 50p for 2 hours Dave.

Personally, if im going to Bhead and the weather is nice, ill par in the streets or by PC World and use my legs (good excercise). If the weather is crappy or im in a lazy mood, ill park in the multi-story.

And yeah, the parking attendants are always either on commission, or have weekly/monthly targets to hit. Bit pathetic if you ask me.

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#356658 - 12th Oct 2009 3:11pm Re: parking woes [Re: davew3]
BMW Joe Offline
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Registered: 30th Apr 2006
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Contest it. They will take too long to get back to you and cancel the issued penalty charge.

I've had a few cancelled when I've contested due to them taking too long to get back to me

Multi-story Car Park FTW.

Cheapest option and you don't have to worry about getting back in time
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#356671 - 12th Oct 2009 3:23pm Re: parking woes [Re: BMW Joe]
DavidB Offline
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Registered: 7th Dec 2003
Posts: 5599
Loc: Bebington, Wirral
I've contested parking tickets, and they've always said they have turned my appeal down. These were legitimate requests, I was parked in a disabled bay whose markings were no longer there (on Woodchurch Road), they had simply worn away, like the rest of the road.

I no longer go to Birkenhead, purely because there is nowhere to park, and I'm not paying 2 per hour to park in a space I'm paying taxes to maintain.

Always keep your eye out for Uber-Parking Warden. He rides a grey moped and gives every single 'illegally' parked vehicle a ticket. If you're even parked funny, he'll ticket you and then disappear on his chicken chaser.
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#356672 - 12th Oct 2009 3:25pm Re: parking woes [Re: DavidB]
MattLFC Offline
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Registered: 14th Aug 2004
Posts: 22315
Loc: Moreton/Beirut/Mobile
Just park on the estate behind Europa and walk through if you dont wanna pay. Its not that far. Tonnes of people who work in Bhead do it. There is a mad fight for the spaces nearest the centre of a morning haha.

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#356673 - 12th Oct 2009 3:26pm Re: parking woes [Re: MattLFC]
StuyMac Offline

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Registered: 24th Nov 2003
Posts: 12002
Loc: Wirralshire
...do you want your car to still be there with its wing mirrors still attached...
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#356676 - 12th Oct 2009 3:28pm Re: parking woes [Re: StuyMac]
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Registered: 18th Jul 2008
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You can get really far on bricks for wheels grin
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#356678 - 12th Oct 2009 3:29pm Re: parking woes [Re: StuyMac]
MattLFC Offline
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Registered: 14th Aug 2004
Posts: 22315
Loc: Moreton/Beirut/Mobile
Ive never had a problem and ive done it on a few occasions, there is tonnes of people who do it.

One thing you do tend to attract no matter where you park in Bhead car parks, is Grrrs slamming their doors into your car. You dont get that on the street (of course as you say, there is the risk some cock will hit your mirror, but then replacing/fixing a mirror is easier and cheaper than some git twatting a big dent in your door).

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#356710 - 12th Oct 2009 4:10pm Re: parking woes [Re: MattLFC]
davew3 Offline
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Registered: 16th Jun 2009
Posts: 1024
Loc: Wirral
Well that's easy,our beloved leader thought it was a good idea to split Cheshire county into East and West Cheshire,then to get rid of Ellesmere and Neston Council and put it with Cheaster Council,Chester likes money so parking charges were put back on at Ellesmere Port, so much for trying to keep people using local small towns,cars using the parking to go shopping at Ellesmere Port has as predicted slowed right down,when it was free it was full,it's still a nice shopping centre.

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#356719 - 12th Oct 2009 4:17pm Re: parking woes [Re: MattLFC]
polo_phil Offline

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Registered: 9th Jan 2009
Posts: 3080
Loc: Birkenhead
Originally Posted By: MattLFC
Just park on the estate behind Europa and walk through if you dont wanna pay. Its not that far. Tonnes of people who work in Bhead do it. There is a mad fight for the spaces nearest the centre of a morning haha.
smile


Beaker's right... you may lose your wing mirrors... block my drive and you may lose your car wink

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#356734 - 12th Oct 2009 4:36pm Re: parking woes [Re: polo_phil]
MattLFC Offline
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Registered: 14th Aug 2004
Posts: 22315
Loc: Moreton/Beirut/Mobile
Er yeah, and if you block someones drive, you deserve to lose your car imho. You can park there whilst showing respect for the locals, the same as tens of people do each and every day.

Mind you, if the locals wernt all claiming a multitude of benefits, there'd be no problems with people parking there, as they would be out at work, earning an honest living, whilst the place was being used for parking. And the mentality of the criminals would not be so popular, given half the local population would be serving very long prison sentences. So I blame the government.

In honesty though, the worst thing they ever did was introduce parking tolls around the Conway Park and Hamilton Sqaure area.

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#356746 - 12th Oct 2009 5:03pm Re: parking woes [Re: MattLFC]
Tony_1985 Offline

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Registered: 19th Aug 2006
Posts: 2421
Loc: Ellesmere Port
Originally Posted By: MattLFC
Ellesmere Port became free for upto 4 hours a couple of months before last Christmas didnt it?? How come your still paying 50p for 2 hours Dave.


Changed again Matt

before 3pm its 50p for 2hrs. 70p for 4hrs
Free after 3pm (but you still need to go get a ticket)

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