I am not sure if anyone can help but, I am looking for more detailed photographs of Gibson House in egremont. I am trying to re build a case for preservation and English Heritage have given me twenty eight days to appeal. They do not feel it is of architectural merit, but I would tend to disagree looking at the stone work detailing, which seems very simlar to some of the buildings at port sunlight. I am trying to find out whom the architect was, I have the build date does anyone have any pictures of the internal rooms? The plot of land may be up for sale again and it has already got planning permission so, this poor building might be doomed.
Robbo - that's even more of a shame then!! Why the fook does our lovely council allow this to happen!?! We're fast losing ALL our heritage and it's not right!
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They are here honey Clicky for Rude lol Noooo! Of course, i know that building. Majestic looking place, front and back! I often resist going in the grounds for a nosey but too scaredy on me own. I recall the u.e team doing a post on this place-in particular i remember the words 'guard dog' and 'asbestos' eek!
Robbo - that's even more of a shame then!! Why the fook does our lovely council allow this to happen!?! We're fast losing ALL our heritage and it's not right!
Ive been down over the weekend and taken some more photographs would have been nice to have been able to have some internal photos as well. Next week I will put a case togther and submit it to the secretary of state, it was last refused in 2005 (listed buildings concent). The design seems to echo some of the red brick buildings of port sunlight.
The application for reconsideration has gone in to the department of culture media and sport (lol) they are who I had to appeal to with regard to its reconsideration regarding its listing. The application regarding the apartments they will be constructed in the grounds in front of gibson house (the rear of the building)extract from a private email from a member of the council to me. >the owners, Nautilus UK had had in tracing the ancestors of the original owners to ask permission for non seafaring people to live there. < The council have also informed Nautilus UK, that I have re submitted an appeal! which I wasnt too pleased about. I still have not been able to trace the architect of this building some of the history seemns patch, so patchy even nautilus appear to be struggling with it. so, does anyone know anything about the ancestors? Nautilus do not? their head office is in Mariners Park just across the road from Gibson House a contact name of Danny Kenny was given to me regarding correspondence.
No further progress not even an acknowledgement from the department of media and sport. It does make you wonder? anyway Labour will hopefully be out so, who knows.
Walked past about an hour ago. Two men in the grounds-lot of banging noise, cudnt see what they doing. Googled 'name on van'- numast- a maritime company. Hmmm? Ohhh! Googled again-they own it. Doh! Sorry
A council notice has appeared on the gates of the Mariners home...Gibson House & Gibson lodge are due to be demolished on 1st Feb 2015. I think we all knew it was going to happen, now we know when.
Please read the facts.I know this is a beautiful building.It was built in another time when things were harder than now and from what I can make out,an ordinary sailor would be lucky to have licked the windows of the place.I know people who have and do live at mariners at present.I would urge whoever is the lead on this petition to get in touch with the organisation and if they have given it their best shot,do not take them on a costly journey which will result in less funds for the good work they do for displaced and distressed seamen.
Gibson House: a statement from www.nautiluswelfarefund Nautilus Welfare Fund In January 2015 some concerns were raised on social media about the future of Gibson House. Nautilus recognises and appreciates these, but it is important to set the record straight and correct some of the misleading statements which have been made about the building. It should be noted that it is the Nautilus Welfare Fund - a separate charity with with its own trust deed operated in accordance with the charity commission requirements - that is responsible for Gibson House and not Nautilus the union per se. The proposal for the demolition of Gibson House has been made reluctantly.It is not an easy option and it is not a cheap option. We have worked long and hard to seek a viable future for the building. Over the last decade we have entered into public and private sector partnerships to explore redevelopment proposals and to produce a conversion plan. However, factors such as the substantial structural challenges presented by the building mean that none of these plans proved to be viable. No one else has produced a proposal or a bid for the building which would secure its future in its current form. The condition of the building - which has suffered from vandalism and environmental damage-is such that it requires extensive work, not minor remedial repairs. It presents serious risks - including the presence of asbestos - which demand good management and specialist work. We strive to provide high quality care and welfare services for former seafarers and their dependants .Over the past twenty years we have made significant investment in state-of- the-art facilities including new residential and specialist care facilities and further developments are planned to ensure that we continue to meet projected needs over the decades ahead.These facilities are designed to reflect the results of research into changing demands for welfare services and it is not possible to deliver such services in the 21st century in a building that was constructed shortly after the 19th century It is also important to state that the Nautilus Welfare Fund is an independent charity administering the services at Mariners Park.As a charity, the Fund has a responsibility to use its resources in the most beneficial for those it cares for. Sadly, it has been impossible to find a way in which those resources can be used to deliver a viable future for Gibson House.
This was singed off by Mike Jess The secretary Nautilus Welfare Fund Any mistakes are mine because I could not upload the original with my previous post. You can read original at www.nautiluswelfarefund.
I lived directly opposite this building when I grew up. It used to be an amazing looking place and was always clean and tidy, very respectful looking and maintained well. I often wonder what happened and why the tenants moved out? Be sad to see it gone for cardboard flats
Apologies if its already been posted, this is from Nooks and Corners in Private Eye:
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"Andrew Gibson House, overlooking the Mersey at Wallasey, stands empty and forlorn, and under threat of demolition. A large and substantial building of red brick and stone, it was opened in 1906 as a sanctuary for the widows of old sailors and of men lost at sea. This charitable institution was paid for by the son of Andrew Gibson, a wealthy Liverpool cotton merchant, and it stands in Mariners’ Park in Egremont, first opened in 1882. This was a garden village, a sort of Port Sunlight, intended as a home for friendless, aged and incapacitated mariners… [But] this legacy has been ill-treated by the heirs to this charitable trust. Many of the cottages and other buildings in Mariners’ Park have gone and the owners of Andrew Gibson House, the merchant navy union Nautilus (formerly NUMAST), now want to demolish it…”
The developers have achieved the 40% forward sales of apartments in Gibson house so work should start very soon. The land on the seaward side is going to have three and four storey apartment blocks built on it which isn't ideal but if it saves Gibson house that is the price that has to be paid, it had been earmarked for demolition.
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Funny where memories take us Casper. All the stuff catalogued in our brains. A great aunt of mine ended up there. I visited her when expecting my first child and I don't think she was very happy. I can't remember much about the inside of the building but she didn't stay there for very long and moved on, to be nearer some other relatives. Always a sad thought when someone goes into a home, they know it's God's little waiting room but no one ever mentions it. All arranged behind closed doors and the disposal of the living follows. There should be plenty of ghosts in there.
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Funny where memories take us Casper. All the stuff catalogued in our brains. A great aunt of mine ended up there. I visited her when expecting my first child and I don't think she was very happy. I can't remember much about the inside of the building but she didn't stay there for very long and moved on, to be nearer some other relatives. Always a sad thought when someone goes into a home, they know it's God's little waiting room but no one ever mentions it. All arranged behind closed doors and the disposal of the living follows. There should be plenty of ghosts in there.
Funny enough they where happy times granny, it always seemed to be summer and we were lucky enough to live near to the beach, you could hear the music echoing from the fairground in New Brighton, taking pop bottles back to the shop for the deposit, then just like the movie stand by me with our butties we would be off to the fair or to Joytime in Vale Park, or roller skating on the prom or fishing, so much the kids of today have missed out on.
Happy times indeed, Casper. We also seemed to play out all summer, but not in the vicinity you talk about. Freedom ! Thinking back and comparing to today, they were special times which cost nothing and now, in most cases, never to be repeated.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Happy times indeed, Casper. We also seemed to play out all summer, but not in the vicinity you talk about. Freedom ! Thinking back and comparing to today, they were special times which cost nothing and now, in most cases, never to be repeated.
Yes, the playground of today is the internet which is a much more dangerous place, mental damage is much harder to control and fix than the odd bit of skin being grazed off.
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Rode past it yesterday and was thinking that development is to be completed in 8 months,wow must have a lot of builders. I highly doubt it but we shall see.
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