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Now if she was walking a dog that had been... say a staffy that had been raised quite aggressively, and in turn she had been mauled and had the lower half of her arm ripped off, what would be the attitude of everyone who watched the video footage then?
Had she treated the Staffy the same way, then she would have got all she deserved IMO!! I'd have had NO sympathy for her whatsoever. Personally I think that once an animal has attacked a human, it should be put down immediately, as I believe that once an animal has that taste of blood, they will never ever be the same. The problem is, you don't get chance to see as they are, more often than not, "destroyed" (fookin hate that phrase) as soon as possible. What people tend to forget is that a domestic dog is still, for all intents and purposes, a "wild" animal. That applies whether the dog in question is a Mastiff, a Staff or a Jack Russell (hate them too). ANY dog has the capacity to be a "dangerous" dog, and it is that which gets my back up about the Dangerous Dogs Act. They mention a list of so called "dangerous breeds" but I have to say, it's the likes of the Jack Russells and some other little terrors, sorry, terriers, that seem to be the nastiest - JMPE! and possibly when some humans attack, they should be put down too. No arguement from me on that honey, apart from the use of the word "possibly" 
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Dangerous dogs refer to the jaw strength, whilst you can get a flesh bite off any dog, most are unlikely to be life threatening, some dogs like staffs have got huge jaw strength (spot the muscular cheeks), some of these are capable of crushing bone and most are strong enough to keep grip on the human despite all attempts to remove them - with this sort of strength they are much more likely to cause physical disability or even death.
It is like comparing a potato gun to a shotgun, one clearly needs to be controlled the other is a bloomin nuisance but unlikely to caause serious damage.
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I know that DD - but it's all relative. If a Jack Russell gets hold of a baby for instance, it's going to be the same or very similar to the likes of a Staff gripping a 5 year old. Even a Jack Russell can bite an adult and cause death - it all depends on WHERE the bite is. Poor Staffs always get the raw end of the deal - mine is scared of cats and birds. She stood last year while a Boxer (dog not fighter) attacked her - she had no idea what to do. I still have people pull their dogs and children away from mine - just because she is a Staffy. It happened again only this afternoon - a lad on the beach with his young daughter shielding her from Tarot with the girls pink coat (although what use he thought that would be I don't know ). Those on here that have "met" her will tell you just how daft she is. Not a nasty bone in her body  It's bad owners that make bad dogs.
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Every dog has the potential to bite, regardless of how good a character they have or how well the dog is brought up. No one can be 100 percent sure they never will. Fear of breeds is brought about by whatever breed the press has got its teeth into ( no pun intended ) at any particular time.
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I will only do one more post on this 'cos some get emotive. Equating a Staff to a shotgun and a Jack Russel to the potato gun, the shotgun is too dangerous to leave around uncontrolled, never mind what its history, it has the power to do major damage. And yes, the potato gun can cause death! The Jack Russel and the baby story doesn't wash, looking at the statistics for death caused by dogs there are many Jack Russels on the list and loads of bigger jaw dogs, it is very rare a bite of a small dog caused disability or death, though I admit difugurement another possible issue. All dogs that are in publicly accessible space or have access to publicly accesible space should be muzzled. Any dog left unattended that has access to a child should be muzzled. 
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Anatomically speaking, the Jack Russell/baby scenario is a very distinct possibility if not a certainty. Like I said, it's relative. I'd like to see the statistics (although how reliable they are is another matter, we all know what they say about statistics). Where did you find them? Can you post the link for them please hon? Getting back on topic, I wonder if she will be charged with anything  It's a pity we can't muzzle some children too (although I can hear some saying "pity we can't muzzle some adults aswell").
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I know that DD - but it's all relative. If a Jack Russell gets hold of a baby for instance, it's going to be the same or very similar to the likes of a Staff gripping a 5 year old. Even a Jack Russell can bite an adult and cause death - it all depends on WHERE the bite is. Poor staffs always get the raw end of the deal - mine is scared of cats and birds. She stood last year while a Boxer (dog not fighter) attacked her - she had no idea what to do. I still have people pull their dogs and children away from mine - just because she is a Staffy. It happened again only this afternoon - a lad on the beach with his young daughter shielding her from Tarot with the girls pink coat (although what use he thought that would be I don't know ). Those on here that have "met" her will tell you just how daft she is. Not a nasty bone in her body It's bad owners that make bad dogs. sounds like my rocky lol!! i get all that when i take him out, some pepole it fookin piss me of the way tossers say that staffs are dangerous and its the only dog that gets a bad name. when its the old mans Jack Russell down the road that is going for everyone that is passing. any dog is dangerous if you piss it off i have had rocky for 9 years now and not once has he gone for, or so much as growled at us. It is the owners that makes a dangerous dog.
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Just seen this, and pretty disgusted - dont think I can really add anymore than has already been said 
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