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Re: The New Ferry Shore [Re: Jamie_LFC] #298364
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Ah Ha Where all wrong.During the year 1910 both the Brick works and the sanitary hospital still stood.The brick works stood on the shore,went across the sewage plant and onto the playying fields behind the plant and the Port Sanitary Hospital stood on whats now the Housing Estate.But that doesnt make sense as the 2nd world war didnt start for another 29 Years.So could we be looking at what is a map dating from the 1st world war? And No again that didnt start for another 4 Years.
I wish I had a map dating from anytime during the first world war. Did the building stand for that 29 years and still service during the bombing raids on Merseyside between 1939 And 1942? But even then the facts dont add up.
As you can tell the maps I have acess to arent the best you will ever see.

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Re: The New Ferry Shore [Re: Jamie_LFC] #298365
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I must say thank to diggingDeeper as he actually put the first of them pics on yesterday but didnt know that was what we where talking about,Sorry Digging. laugh


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Re: The New Ferry Shore [Re: Jamie_LFC] #298367
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Look what I found...

Originally Posted by Merseygateway.org
Special health regulations were needed in ports such as Liverpool because major infectious diseases could be brought into a country by ship. Ships which were found to have evidence of infectious diseases on board had to be isolated to prevent the spread of disease. This enforced isolation is known as quarantine, a word which comes from the Italian phrase for isolating incoming ships for a period of forty days: the quarantine.


Notice about vessels from Dublin being put under quarantine because of cholera outbreaks in 1832

To begin with quarantine regulations were enforced in Liverpool through the portís Customs Officers. Later special the port health authority appointed its own staff to carry out this work. The Public Health Act of 1872 authorised the appointment of Port Sanitary Authorities and in 1874 Liverpool City Council took advantage of this act and appointed a full-time port medical officer. A shore quarantine hospital was set up at New Ferry and in 1890 strong powers of detention were given to the Customs Officers and the medical officer.

The 1896 Public Health Act renewed the existing quarantine regulations and gave the medical officer powers independent of the Customs. Liverpoolís quarantine anchorage was established in the Sloyne off Rock Ferry in the 18th century. This caused delay to incoming ships and so a gunboat had to be posted to stop any unauthorised movement of shipping. People suffering from infectious diseases which needed to be quarantined were treated on board four hospital ships which were permanently at anchor in the Sloyne. By the 1950s people suffering from quarantinable infectious diseases were treated at Fazakerley Hospital.



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Re: The New Ferry Shore [Re: Jamie_LFC] #298368
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That's good Jamie, it confirms that the hospital was built pretty soon after 1874.

Here is a map with shaded bits indicating "shore reclamation", I don't know when this was done at New Ferry, first look at OS maps doesn't show any obvious date, will have to have a closer look some other time.

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Re: The New Ferry Shore [Re: diggingdeeper] #298495
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The hospital was knocked down after the 2nd world war, not sure the exact year


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Thats exactly what we where missing,All thats left now is when it was built...To Be Continued laugh


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Re: The New Ferry Shore [Re: Jamie_LFC] #298518
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The site of New Ferry baths is not the field. The houses in Scotia Avenue, Samaria Avenue & Starworth Drive are on the old baths site. Grid ref SJ 341 854.

Re: The New Ferry Shore [Re: greasby_lad] #298523
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thats correct, if you look at the maps on page 2 showing new ferry baths on one and then the other showing the housing estate you can follow the out line of the baths,were the estate is now on the map as you look at it on the left are trees, well those trees and grass used to be inside the baths. The hospital was more to the back of the baths and i think the remains of some of the boundry hospital walls are still there.

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Susan if I understood a word of that I would of replied well done or dont think so. But I dont have a clue what you just said.


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Re: The New Ferry Shore [Re: greasby_lad] #299043
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Didnt notice that. Have Now though took me a while,Soft me. But nicely noticed smile


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Re: The New Ferry Shore [Re: Jamie_LFC] #299099
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thats ok. did have to read it twice myself before posted it,i knew what i meant. it was in reply to another post that had pointed to the field saying that was were the baths was.

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dd: I'm a bit puzzled about "Emblematic" shown on the map. Roughly in the Meols area. What is/was "Emblematic" ?

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"Hidden within the embankment that the hovercraft used is a reminder of ships of the past. One stormy night a ship called "Emblematic" was driven ashore. She proved to be too troublesome to remove, and was buried in the embankment. When the embankment was renovated her remains were uncovered, but again buried beneath tons of concrete."
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Map dated 1938 showing New Ferry baths and the Port Sanitary Hospital (Infectious Diseases. Liverpool Corpn.)

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does anyone know the name of the school in the above map dated 1938

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