I first went in here in 1972. At that time it had a separate bar and lounge. You entered the bar room through the existing door. The actual bar was to your left and ran along to roughly whjere the wall ends now. The lounge is the seating area at the back. You entered that through a differnet door which is now locked off. The gents was to the right of the existing bar. The ladies may have been where it is now. I remebr the landlord going mad because someone had stolen the copper pipes from the urinals and the toiletg was flooded. It used to have fantastic guinness. It still does a good pint.Why they made these pubs open plan I don;t know. The Richmond in Oxton Road was another pub ruined.
Use to go in there on a Friday night, going back a bit as it was late 50s and early 60s, then from there up to the Little Brown Jug which was also in Oliver Street
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One of the pubs in Oliver Street was prosecuted for keeping a badger for three years to be baited by dogs. The badger was rescued.It was in the 19th century.
One of the pubs in Oliver Street was prosecuted for keeping a badger for three years to be baited by dogs. The badger was rescued.It was in the 19th century.
I hate hearing things like that-so cruel, but at least thankfully it was rescued. -How can people do that? I really dont understand some people, nasty,nasty.
One of the pubs in Oliver Street was prosecuted for keeping a badger for three years to be baited by dogs. The badger was rescued.It was in the 19th century.
I hate hearing things like that-so cruel, but at least thankfully it was rescued. -How can people do that? I really dont understand some people, nasty,nasty.
I have a book and it says about that, think it was either the Firemans or Stairways. But either way there was something that happened with Animal cruelty in Stairways to at one point in the upper floors.
One of the pubs in Oliver Street was prosecuted for keeping a badger for three years to be baited by dogs. The badger was rescued.It was in the 19th century.
I hate hearing things like that-so cruel, but at least thankfully it was rescued. -How can people do that? I really dont understand some people, nasty,nasty.
Much as I love animals as the next man, in the 19th century we were shoving kids up chimneys and down mines. Loads had never heard of shoes, a square meal and had a dreaded fear of the workhouse. I don't know the statistics but infant mortality was horrendous. Forgive me for not worrying about a badger and I am only surprised that it was considered cruel then! Fireman's was a watering hole for the postal workers from Argyle street at one time.
I agree with your perspective and although sadly child cruelty though illegal still exists in this day and age, most people are horrified with it, but there are still a lot of people among us who want to cause suffering to badgers and other animals and actually think it to be normal. We aren't talking about jus thick thugs either, but some very intelligent and organised people. But then I suppose the Nazis were intelligent and well organised too.
I agree with your perspective and although sadly child cruelty though illegal still exists in this day and age, most people are horrified with it, but there are still a lot of people among us who want to cause suffering to badgers and other animals and actually think it to be normal. We aren't talking about jus thick thugs either, but some very intelligent and organised people. But then I suppose the Nazis were intelligent and well organised too.
I just cannot understand people who who can get any form of enjoyment through either inflicting pain on others; being a person or animal, or watching it for their own 'entertainment', i cant find that to be acceptable, or normal, i abhor any form of cruelty; which is to protect.
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