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Here's a pic. of the Black Horse on Church Rd. No.107. Not a very good one, since I really took it to show the location of the old Regent cinema.

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The Black Horse pub is mentioned in the book Sidelights on Tranmere. The article on the small village quotes that the Black Horse Inn on Church Road near the top of Well Lane bore this date plate 1757.


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blimey i never knew that was there, the stuff you learn

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Nice one - always wondered why the DIY shop was a differant age to the pub next door - that piccy brings back some painful memories as I ran into one of those trees a coupel of years ago when not paying attention when out for a jog.....

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The Black Horse, Church road, Tranmere, in 2003

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A man named S.G.Wildman wrote a book called 'The Black Horsemen' in which he claimed that there is an Arthurian link with old Inns bearing the Black Horse name.

I believe the writer was originally a teacher at Wirral Grammar School and lived in the Tranmere area. Perhaps he was inspired by this particular pub.

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Originally Posted by geekus
A man named S.G.Wildman wrote a book called 'The Black Horsemen' in which he claimed that there is an Arthurian link with old Inns bearing the Black Horse name.

I believe the writer was originally a teacher at Wirral Grammar School and lived in the Tranmere area. Perhaps he was inspired by this particular pub.



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Photo of the Black Horse and the top of Well Lane in the 1940s, and also two rare pics of the original pub that the current one replaced in 1931.

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Excellent pics Marty, the middle pic of pub with property close behind, any idea what road that property is in. It looks to close to be the present day road which i think is Wycherley Rd, first left going down Well Lane.


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Judging from the 1930s OS map the building was a large outbuilding that stood on the far side of the yard behind the pub. It looks like some sort of carthouse to me.

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Great photo's. If you look on Google Earth, there is a building behind the pub and at an angle to it. Wycherley Rd is further away and runs roughly parallel with Church Road.
Do you think the building bears a resemblence to the design of some of the Birkenhead Brewery pubs?
I notice that the adjoining building (on the north side, towards Birkenhead) has similar lettering in its ground floor windows. Was this also part of the pub. It's certainly on the land that the 'new' pub is built on.

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About what date are the old pics please
Looking at the state of the road in them,there isn't one or it's snow turned into slush

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Originally Posted by Norton
I notice that the adjoining building (on the north side, towards Birkenhead) has similar lettering in its ground floor windows. Was this also part of the pub. It's certainly on the land that the 'new' pub is built on.


You're quite right, the building next door does indeed have the same 'Allsop's Burton Ale' lettering on one of the windows, indicating that it had obviously been purchased by the Brewery to extend the original pub. The full extent of the pub is clearly shown on the 1909 OS map below.

As far as the date of the photos goes, Derek, they aren't dated, but as there are no tram tracks in the road they must be from before 1901, as that's when the Higher Tranmere tram route along Church Road opened. As for the road surface, clearly in those days there wasn't much of one! The photos I posted were cropped to concentrate on the Black Horse; I've posted the uncropped versions below, showing amongst othr things the old cottages that use to stand on the corner of Well Lane.

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looking at the very good condition of the pavements and kerbs it quite possible the road has been got ready to be re-surfaced, you can see in the first of the two photo's directly opposit the old cottages, the edge boundry stones arround the drain grid in the gutter


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Well Lane cottages c1890

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Great photo's, thanks.
Note about the date - The West Cheshire Brewing Co. Ltd. began trading as such in 1896, after Elvin & Ross (1887)(of Queens Brewery, Farm Rd. Tranmere) took over Gatehousse & Son.
I like the tramline theory about the 1901 date.

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I was barred from the Black Horse way back in 1979 frown Even as I got much older I still wouldn't go in there in case they remembered me and told me to get out!

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Planning Permission been put in to turn the Black Horse into two apartment. https://planning.wirral.gov.uk/onli...b=summary&keyVal=_WIRRA_DCAPR_103736


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