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#195480 - 16th Jan 2008 5:58pm Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins
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Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins

In the Globe it says its almost rubber stamped and it will only be persistent offenders that will be fined.

This is going to be great for the kids to piss the neighbors off.
Instead of knocking on doors just swop the rubbish bags..

I wonder how understanding they will be?
Is this the start of the slippery road ?
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#195482 - 16th Jan 2008 6:00pm Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: Mark]
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My understanding was in your recycle bin you cant use bags? so can't see kids "swapping" bags as such, but maybe putting general waste into a recycle bin.

What do you class as a persistent offender ?
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#195484 - 16th Jan 2008 6:02pm Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: Cali_16v]
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Who knows its the councils job not mine lol
There may be a 3 strike rule but that's me saying it
i have not read that anywhere.
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#195489 - 16th Jan 2008 6:06pm Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: Mark]
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Do we have any council workers on board who could perhaps find this out, as would be good to know, also do you get a notice telling you that you have broken the rules?

I know, i for one would like to know how many chances i get/have left before receiving a fine.
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#195497 - 16th Jan 2008 6:28pm Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: Cali_16v]
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Gutted... wont affect me hehe, but gutted!

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#195501 - 16th Jan 2008 6:32pm Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: Cali_16v]
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I used to do it when the recycling bins first came out.

I used to put the rubbish from my garage in peoples grey and brown bins cas to me at the time, a bin was a bin.

Dont think fines are the right way to go about it.
I'm thinking a better option might be to not empty the bin and put a notice on it sayin somethin like "sor' it 'aaat"
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#195515 - 16th Jan 2008 6:46pm Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: BMW Joe]
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I can solve the problem in one sentence.

Lets get out of the EU!

Tell them to shove their 100million per tonne fookin fines up their arses and find some pants to sniff, why the hell are people in this country always being had off by the EU because our government is too weak to tell them to fook off!!!

Recycling my arse! Its all a con, running out of landfill my arse, there is plenty of space in Buckingham Palace and the rest of London they can use for landfill!!!

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#195563 - 16th Jan 2008 7:38pm Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: MattLFC]
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the same things happening down here in Ellesmere Port

there's already been 1 or 2 fines handed out

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#195666 - 16th Jan 2008 10:18pm Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: Tony_1985]
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eeek!!! im always gettin told of by jonah!
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#195946 - 17th Jan 2008 11:25pm Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: chiccy]
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This is stupid... YOU PAY FRIGGING COUNCIL TAX FOR THEM barstard TO EMPTY YOUR BINS AND THEN THERE GOING TO FINE YOU CAUSE YOU PUT THE WRONG FRIGGING STUFF IN THE BIN... WHO THE HELL CARES??? What happened to the BIN men who did a days graft with bins on there shoulders?? WIRRAL BOROUGH COUNCIL are retards and NEED to wake up and smell the FRESH AIR... WE PAY over 800 in TAX for what ?? TO BE RIPPED off even more cause we CANT put what we want in our bins ??? Im fed up of em really am they have pissed me off over a lot of things and this is the LAST straw..

Sorry where was i ?? Oh yer ranting about a stupid cult irm i mean council...

sorry lamethrower
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#195951 - 17th Jan 2008 11:49pm Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: SoundLad]
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#195986 - 18th Jan 2008 10:01am Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: chiccy]
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Tell them to shove their 100million per tonne fookin fines up their arses and find some pants to sniff, why the hell are people in this country always being had off by the EU because our government is too weak to tell them to fook off!!!

Recycling my arse! Its all a con, running out of landfill my arse, there is plenty of space in Buckingham Palace and the rest of London they can use for landfill!!!


Slightly wide of the mark there aren't we matty?

Recycling is a good thing and i'm more than happy to do it.

However, if the "wrong" rubbish is in your bin, but at the bottom, and they put 2 bins onto the back of the waggon then how do they know it was your bin it came from? I've only got my house number on the general waste bin, so ther's no way they can point the finger at one person, just contest it see if they take you to court! It won't go very far.

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#195991 - 18th Jan 2008 10:15am Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: CustomIce]
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I dont believe I am wide of the mark; if people want to recycle, they will, if people dont, they should have a choice.

There has been millions of prople in the UK, who over the last two or three decades, have wanted to recycle, and done as much as they can to do so, but without any help and limited recycling options from the council's.

The only reason this is now happening, is because of the EU fines. If it wernt for that, the council's wouldnt be arsed.

Now we have a stupidly confusing mish-mash of rules for what you can and can't recylce, which change from borough to borough; just down the road in Bidston, they built one of the most advanced recycling centre's in 80's and guess what, it was never actually used to recycle anything, instead everything was dumped into Bidston Moss landfill.

Now we find that the smallet bit of plastic in a paper bin (say you forget to rip out the plastic of an envelop/dont notice it) and you are going to get a fine. Say you dont fully understand what constitutes a certain type of material, you are going to get fined. And eventually, Wirral will follow the same way as other council's, whereby you could actually prosecuted and end up with a criminal record as a result of your error.

I think its stimple, for those who want to recycle, great, all credit to them. But it shouldnt be forced upon us, the council shouldnt be fining us, and we shouldnt be bending over, getting greased up and then penetrated by the EU and accepting their 100million per tonne of landfill fines.

If the authorities where that bothered about recycling, then they would ban plastic bags and force supermarkets to introduce a bio-degradable replacement instead, but they dont. The reason all comes back to the fact that they are only avoiding landfill to avoid fines.

Will you be so happy about all this recylcing shite when we start getting fines from the EU for hundreds of millions, if not billions of pounds for using landfill, which could have been spent on the NHS, schools etc...

Get out of the EU and problem solved. Encourage people to recycle, give them incentives maybe, like better refuse collections for recylced goods, more places to recycle. But dont force them recycle. The EU is becoming more and more like the USSR every day!

And to top it all, it seems the money from all these fines is going to the fookin French farmers!!!

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#195992 - 18th Jan 2008 10:16am Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: CustomIce]
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The Bins have serial numbers on them wink
So they could if need be just look the next time your bin is out.

But also they said which i think i'm in favor of that people that leave there bins on the paths all week and don't bring them in are also liable to be fined !

I am lucky i have a drive way and i can bring the bins
off the pavements. But not everyone has that much space.

Like lee says, i remember as a child, Bin men doing a Hard Graf Job. Walking around the back of your house, picking up your bin and then emptying it and then returning it.

That's where the Christmas Tip came about as they worked hard.
But dont forget its not the bin men that make the rules.
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#196014 - 18th Jan 2008 1:56pm Re: Fines for the Wrong Rubbish in your Bins [Re: Mark]
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I'm not bothered by the bin men of the level of graft they do, its a fairly un glamorous job to start with and fairly well paid so i hear. Thats not my issue.

2 bins on the back of the waggon lifted and tipped into it, are they really going to be able to tell which of the bins a "wrong" peice of rubbish came from, that was what i was getting at.

To be fair you've got to have a lot of stuff in your bin that shouldn't be there for them to notice. Its not as if they are going to go through each bin with a fine tooth comb, they'd be there all week!

Matty don't get me wrong, i agree we seem to get shafted on a regular basis by the EU.
But if you don't want to re-cycle then don't, just use the one bin, if it'll all fit!
But re-cycling is still a good thing, just my opinion. Regardless of the motive for the council's reason for doing it, we as a species have to do something!

And i think soundlad made a really good point, we already pay 800+ to the council for these services, there should be some leeway.

In Bromborough (don't know about all areas) the grey bin takes card paper tin and "food packaging", to re-cycle this it needs to be sorted out, so why not leave it at that and sort the "wrong" waste out then.

The bottom line is, i like to recycle, the simpler it is the better, these fines are dead wrong and i refuse to be penalised for getting the overcomplicated recycling instructions wrong!

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