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lol glad i moved away when i did

Wooo that's bad

Got to be a bit careful what people say at this stage and a bit careful speculating, have to remember this guy most probably has family/friends who will be grieving.

has never stopped newspapers etc (altho i only really trust bbc - and even then, they have got it wrong before lol)

Fair enough, but they are newspapers, and media in general have no consideration for peoples feelings, as local people, we should have. And even newspapers tend to be careful when it comes to publishing contraversial rumors such as this.



We should put ourselves in the shoes of the guys family and friends before spreading mallicious rumors that may be untrue.

We don't know whether someone who knows the poor guy browses these boards, or even just stumbles across it.

at the end of the day all clj was doing was telling us wot he had been told - he never said that it was actual facts etc

as for anyone close to the guy (no pun intended), i'm sure there are plenty of rhumours flying round that they'll have heard anyway lol

I know he's just sharing what he's heard, I was just stating we have to be careful with this one, not only is a sickening crime where there will be many rumors etc flying about, buts it a very local crime.

in no way was my last post mallicious towards the deceased.

Maybe not towards the deceased, but if you were a relative/close friend of the deceased, rumors like that would be very hurtful.

At a time like this, there will be tons of rumors flying about as to how, why and who etc, but some are best just left as word of mouth rather then being spread around the internet, especially on local forums.

so am i lying to say that 1 of the suspects attacked another man and got given 100hrs community service?

if the people who have been arrested are the culprits then i hope the get the punishment they deserve.

Im not saying you are lying, I dont believe I mentioned anything about that or people lying? Since you believe I did, I would like you to point this out....

Unless you are a detective investigating the case, you probably won't know for sure anyway.

The point I am making, is there will be a lot of rumors flying around about this, some as a result of chinese whispers, some that are completely manufactured for sick peoples entertainment, and some that will turn out to mirror the truth.

Until such a time, given the local nature of the crime and the seriousness and callous circumstances involved, as well as the distress it may cause people who know the guy, I dont think its wise to read too much into rumors/help them spread atm.

Look at it this way, I post a rumor on here that my mate said before or something (this is hypothetical btw), and then people read it and a couple of peeps discuss it, it then gets passed around the Wirral, and the rumor causes a lot of distress to the family of the poor man. Little did I know, that the rumor, was passed onto my mate by some muppet who made it up, and in posting it on the forums, not only was it questionable to do so, but also accelerated the rumor, as xxxx off the forums, went and told everyone in work, and xxx off the forums went and told everyone down the pub that night etc...

I think ye get what I mean, I know ye wernt having insinuating anything yourself, you were just posting what you have heard from someone you know and probably trust. All I was doing was advising people to be careful about doing so, because if the rumor mill gets going, not only would it look bad on Wiki and its members, but could also cause extra distress to relatives of the person and/or extend/accelerate/eggagerate rumors.

It has to be said Matty you can be the most incentive incentitve person on these forums at times. IMO there's nothing wrong with clj comments, No names have been mentioned, already the police and reporters and news papers are saying that the whole thing is on mobile phones? There also saying that he was well love by his family. I think its fair to say also if any of our members know of the man and his family then i'm sure they would have come forward by now and this tread would instantly swing more towards RIP. Than who is and was is, its Human Nature.

I don't think anyone as been incentive at all so far.
And members are being respectful IMO to the man and his family.
If i heard rumours from a reliable source i would be posting them, but that's me.

Yes if someone was mocking the Dead of a Local that would
be very different and promptly removed.

I dont understand what your ranting on about mark, wtf do incetives have to do with anything?

And also, if you bothered to read my posts, instead of just jumping on your high horse, you will see I wasnt blasting the poster of the comments, I was merely suggesting that people are careful what they post/rumors they spread, most rumors that will be passed around will be untrue, and we must consider the fact this is a very local crime, and we dont want to be seen as a rumor mill for things like this.

Reasons behind it for instance, people can start saying he did this, or he was that, and thats why he got murdered, all of which turn out to be untrue and are very damaging to the family because everyone starts to think he was blah blah when he wasnt.

The CPS must have a very strong case to have pushed this through so quickly, I wonder what the evidence is and also, if it was a 13 year old who did it, this is made even more dispicable, the thought of someone being so evil at such a young age is just incomprehendable!

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