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#1085947 Yesterday at 08:27 AM
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The current Tory Government are to allow Councils to self off public allotments, this despite:-

Massive waiting lists for allotments.
Green policies.
Re-wilding policies.
Open space policies.
Common sense.

Fortunately most allotment sites are on land that is unsuitable for building on, that's partly how they came about. However in recent years it isn't unheard of that building on unsuitable ground still goes ahead and problems occur later.

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Typo, DD,?


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Originally Posted by bert1
Typo, DD,?

Always a good chance these days but I can't spot one.


There's a real danger that the left will drag Britain back to the 1970s, with secure well-paid jobs, ample housing, properly-funded NHS and social care, free tuition, student grants, final salary pensions, affordable rail fares and fabulous films and music. David Osland 2025

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OK, so this Tory government are far worse than the previous one.


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Originally Posted by bert1
OK, so this Tory government are far worse than the previous one.


Same, highly focussed on passing money up the trough system. Even capitalist America is waking up to the fact that extreme wealth inequality destroys a country. The only way for a country to be successful is to distribute wealth, otherwise you are just making a few individuals successful which are a tiny minority of a country.

The biggest con out is knocking houses down and building new ones. You buy a new house and you have immediately given 50% of that price away, you have a mortgage and over the lifetime of the mortgage you give away far more than the remaining 50% of the property, you pay insurance which is one of the most lucrative businesses out there.

In the mean time there are numerous distraction policies like allowing a high crime rate, attacking foreign countries, throwing personal insults around instead of discussing political policy, promoting celebrities as people that really important in this world, allowing rampant lies in the media (corporate and personal), faking disgust etc etc.

And in the mean time allowing blatant bribery and corruption, as a GP put it recently, saying he isn't allowed to receive a pen off a company rep yet politicians in the health sector receive gifts of hundreds of thousands of pounds from those same companies https://privatisation.everydoctor.o...-big-pharma-and-us-healthcare-lobbyists/.


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The Utopia you seek doesn't exist and never will.

It seems to me this government are hell bent on stopping food production, whether it be on farms or allotments.

I think they think the food in the supermarkets must grow in there.


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I'm not after Utopia, just a fairer society than the one we have. Its funny how people get arrested almost immediately for merely standing peacefully in roads belonging to the "gentry" yet you can have gangs causing all sorts of chaos and crime in other roads and nothing is done for months or years.

Acceptance of the gentry system based on wealth is what has kept this country back.

Acceptance of crime is just as bad, the majority of crime is linked to drugs and yet the drugs market could easily be virtually wiped out to a sensible level, this would not suit the gentry nor the police so instead they have a cozy little agreement.

The latest is talking about increasing National Insurance rates (to a potential 50%) while also extending the state pension age. If they need more money change national insurance to be taxed on all income instead of leaving a massive loophole for the rich. The more they can afford, the less they are taxed has been a policy far too long.

Every trial done on Universal Basic Income has shown it to be a success, Governments keep doing these trials and get the same results but everybody knows it will never be implemented because it goes against the gentry system than has been imprinted in everybody's heads.

You only have to look at the electricity farce to realise how the rules work:- lets have nuclear because it is cheap electricity, lets have solar because it is cheap electricity, lets have wind energy because it is cheap electricity. All of those statements are true, they are much cheaper sources of electricity but instead of providing cheap electricity, they are sanctioned to keep the electricity the same high price but create massive profits to the rich instead. For an extra nail in the coffin they make small businesses pay even more for their electricity.


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There has always been the haves and have nots and there isn't a country in the world that doesn't apply. Even in the trade union movement of which I was a member for many, many years, pay differentials were kept between tradesmen, semi skilled and unskilled. So, how does the Universal basic income work, there will always be someone who think their job is more responsible than another and want renumerated accordingly.

Cheaper electricity, do away with nut zero and stop thinking we can save the planet.

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UBI in its pure form pays the same basic living wage to everybody regardless of anything. If you don't want to be eating beans on toast every day in a 8 X 6 room then you work to improve your living standard (slight exaggeration, it should provide enough money to provide adequate living conditions for everybody).

While everybody guesses loads of people would retire rather than work (based on the disinformation about the number of benefit scroungers), the trials always show that is not true, having a secure safety net improves peoples motivation to try to improve their standard of living.


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