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Date of post [email protected] posted by Pamela 185 on Wirral Forums.
My wife found it by pure chance when searching Neptune Street

Ok found it, was aware of that family on the census.

Name: Isabella Mary Walsh, Spouse, William Jones
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 23
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1880
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1903
Marriage Place: Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Liverpool
Fathers,
Thomas Walsh, Joiner.
Robert Jones, Bootmaker.

The above is likely to be the witness at Annie Elizabeth's marriage. Note, Thomas Walsh, father. I've come across this on many occasions. Isabella not being a widow has to have a father with the same surname, it appears she doesn't want to recognise her real father and has used Thomas Jones first name and occupation. There isn't another Isabella Mary Walsh born anywhere 1880+/-2years.

Thanks Bert

Messed up one of the certificates.
William Commander b 1922 died around 1939.
Have you reference please.

Name: Age at Death (in years):
COMMANDER, WILLIAM 16
GRO Reference: 1939 M Quarter in ALED Volume 11B Page 431

Thanks Bert
Couple of queries.
1.Could William have left Annie senior rather than Annie leaving g him
2.Where William and Annie married and if yes when.
3.Is there any information on the rest of the Walsh family
4.How and why did Annie E get to be born in Oswestry

I think I owe it to Annie seniors memory to find out how she died and her resting place.
Could you provide references for her death.
Annie has been around for a lot of deaths in the family so it's right and fitting that I pursue all avenues to see who was there for Annie when she died.

1, Impossible to know.
2, 1878, St Andrews Church, Bebington.
3, There will be plenty if researched, William was the son of John Walsh and Anna Tobin, likely to have married in Ireland.
4, Family were living there, 1901 census is Oswestry.

Matches year of birth,

JONES, ANNIE 80
GRO Reference: 1939 D Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 1215

Thanks
Sorry,I wasn't specific.
The children of William and Annie that is Isabella Frederick John and Margaret.

Yes as you will see in the 1891 census with William and Annie and later in the 1901 census, Oswestry, with Thomas and Annie (Williams)

Have you a date of William and Annie's wedding as is there a divorce anywhere?

Not the exact day, church records not online.

Marriage
Name: William Walsh, Spouse, Ann Williams
Registration Year: 1878
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Wirral
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 560

Unlikely to be a divorce, unaffordable to most working class people in that time period.

1930 Directory.
227+229 Brook St, Mrs Harriet Shakeshaft, Shopkeeper.